UPC at Wesleyan Holiness Consortium

[Sethern]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

David Bernard belikeves that Trinitarians and OPs worship the same Jesus, we just have different opinions on whether He is 1 of 3 or just 1 of 1 persons

This is true, you can find these quotes from when David Bernard debates Trinitarians.

[kclee4jc]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

David Bernard attended a meeting Co-hosted by Jack Hayford last month.

One historian from Regent University stated, "“This is an historic day. The divisions of a hundred years ago were laid aside today in a wonderful spirit of unity.”

For me, giving official recognition to our brethren in other denominations can't come soon enough! What say you? This meeting was with both Pentecostal and non Pentecostal Leaders.

Here is an excerpt and a link.

LOS ANGELES, CA— On January 13, 2012, an historic meeting of leaders took place at the Central Offices of the Foursquare Church. Welcomed by president Glenn Burris, 18 top leaders of denominations committed to a common emphasis on holiness in the 21st century met as part of the Wesleyan Holiness Consortium (WHC). These leaders represent 13 denominations whose roots are common in the Wesleyan Holiness movement. The WHC was formed in 2006 at a meeting of these leaders in Dallas. Since then, the WHC has expanded in influence involving regional leaders and thousands of pastors from these denominations across the United States and in South America. The denominations represented at this meeting included: Assemblies of God, Brethren in Christ, Church of God/Anderson, Evangelical, Foursquare, Free Methodist, Grace Communion International, Nazarene, Pentecostal Holiness, Salvation Army, United Methodist, United Pentecostal, Wesleyan.


http://holinessandunity.wikispaces.c...e_Jan%2013.pdf

What say I? Depends on the intent of this meeting and the intent and approach of Brother Bernard. If he was there simply to represent the Apostolic movement..fine. If he was there to affirm that "we are all in the same boat"...not so fine. For some reason, I can't imagine Bro Bernard going along to get along and trying to identify with those outside the Apostolic Faith as they were "brethren". I could be wrong tho.

[kclee4jc]

For the record, I visit services, revivals, and perhaps even conferences of those with whom I don't agree. This does not mean that I am identifying myself with them. Nor does it mean I believe the Apostolic message and its neccessity any less.

[Jay]

KC, I have also attended revival services, a campmeeting, and and other services with those who are not Apostolic much less Pentecostal. However, they were old-fashioned Holiness, and they know that I am Apostolic. I have reached the point that I am very easily recognized by many of them. I am doing my best to show them, and everyone else, that there is more to Pentecost than what they have seen.

[Hoovie]

I would not begin to think DKB now "agrees" with them in all areas... it's weird for anyone to assume that he would... Nor would I expect Nazarene's now to invoke "Jesus" at the moment of baptism.

Such musings are really missing the point. The point that we can see and celebrate, is that mature leaders who worship Jesus can get together for causes they agree on, and hopefully further dialog in areas where differences do exist.

I say "Praise Jesus!"

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

David Bernard attended a meeting Co-hosted by Jack Hayford last month.

One historian from Regent University stated, "“This is an historic day. The divisions of a hundred years ago were laid aside today in a wonderful spirit of unity.”

For me, giving official recognition to our brethren in other denominations can't come soon enough! What say you? This meeting was with both Pentecostal and non Pentecostal Leaders.

Here is an excerpt and a link.

LOS ANGELES, CA— On January 13, 2012, an historic meeting of leaders took place at the Central Offices of the Foursquare Church. Welcomed by president Glenn Burris, 18 top leaders of denominations committed to a common emphasis on holiness in the 21st century met as part of the Wesleyan Holiness Consortium (WHC). These leaders represent 13 denominations whose roots are common in the Wesleyan Holiness movement. The WHC was formed in 2006 at a meeting of these leaders in Dallas. Since then, the WHC has expanded in influence involving regional leaders and thousands of pastors from these denominations across the United States and in South America. The denominations represented at this meeting included: Assemblies of God, Brethren in Christ, Church of God/Anderson, Evangelical, Foursquare, Free Methodist, Grace Communion International, Nazarene, Pentecostal Holiness, Salvation Army, United Methodist, United Pentecostal, Wesleyan.


http://holinessandunity.wikispaces.c...e_Jan%2013.pdf

And boldly, right there in the middle of the first row in the picture!! LOL.

May the Lord bless him and all these brethen to follow Christ in the leadership of their respective denominations.

[kclee4jc]

Originally Posted by Jay

KC, I have also attended revival services, a campmeeting, and and other services with those who are not Apostolic much less Pentecostal. However, they were old-fashioned Holiness, and they know that I am Apostolic. I have reached the point that I am very easily recognized by many of them. I am doing my best to show them, and everyone else, that there is more to Pentecost than what they have seen.

Absolutely! When attending functions at other churches I believe it is important that we go representing what we believe and who we are. Any time that I visit a meeting at a church of another faith I want to represent Apostolic Truth. If I preach at a church of another faith I DO NOT avoid preaching doctrine! lol

[Austin]

I would if he be careful because sometimes the greetings you send toward others don't come back toward you.
We all know how much some hate and mock the oneness of our faith in one true God.
It's ok to be flexible around people with friendship but I would be very careful about the spirit of political correctness in agreeing with ours as brothers of the faith, especially if I were Bernard.
The devil would love to get even with him.

[returnman]

The lack of posting on this suggest to me that the conservative corner of this forum is all but gone. 3-4 years ago this would have been the #1 hitter.

[NorCal]

As a member of the Untra-Con I ask, how can we reach the lost, if we do not associate with them? We can shine all we want, but if it just hidden under a bed it is useless!

There is a difference between associating with them and being a part of them.