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03-26-2012, 12:47 PM
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Re: Obamacare goes to Supreme Court Monday
It SHOULD be one of the simplest decision the SC has ever made. Obamacare clearly overreached and breached the constitution. However, constitutionality doesn't mean as much as political ideology and 4 of those judges are as liberal as the day is long. All they have to do is sway one voice, which wouldn't surprise me. Then our country will continue down the march to being a bankrupt mess liek most of europe. Sad really.
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03-26-2012, 12:49 PM
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Re: Obamacare goes to Supreme Court Monday
Obama Lawyer Laughed at In Supreme Court
On the first day of health care reform arguments before the Supreme Court, two justices needled a top Obama lawyer for simultaneously calling the fine that will be paid under the law for not purchasing insurance a “penalty” and a “tax.”
“General Verrilli, today you are arguing that the penalty is not a tax. Tomorrow you are going to be back and you will be arguing that the penalty is a tax,” said Justice Samuel Alito, in one of the few laugh lines throughout the 90 minutes of argument Monday.
http://nation.foxnews.com/obamacare/...-supreme-court
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03-26-2012, 12:53 PM
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Re: Obamacare goes to Supreme Court Monday
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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013
It SHOULD be one of the simplest decision the SC has ever made. Obamacare clearly overreached and breached the constitution. However, constitutionality doesn't mean as much as political ideology and 4 of those judges are as liberal as the day is long. All they have to do is sway one voice, which wouldn't surprise me. Then our country will continue down the march to being a bankrupt mess liek most of europe. Sad really.
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After The New Deal, the Supreme Court broadened their view of federal authority to regulate economic activities. It's going to be an uphill battle.
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03-26-2012, 09:30 PM
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Re: Obamacare goes to Supreme Court Monday
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Second, a judge has actually said, well, we're not regulating the inactivity of not buying health insurance. We're regulating the mental activity of choosing not to buy health insurance. When you get into this kind of Orwellian language, you're doing something wrong.
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Follow this logic all the way out and there is something wrong with forcing those who drive to buy insurance, or enforcing any laws at all.
All action or inaction requires thought first (for those of us who have our mental faculties and good health).
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03-26-2012, 09:41 PM
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Re: Obamacare goes to Supreme Court Monday
One can choose not to drive though
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03-26-2012, 10:01 PM
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Re: Obamacare goes to Supreme Court Monday
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Follow this logic all the way out and there is something wrong with forcing those who drive to buy insurance, or enforcing any laws at all.
All action or inaction requires thought first (for those of us who have our mental faculties and good health).
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Auto insurance is required by state law, as it is legal to do so, that is why Mass. had the right to pass a state health coverage, it is the state's right not the feds.
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03-27-2012, 09:01 AM
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Re: Obamacare goes to Supreme Court Monday
so now they can say we will make you get medical treatment. my medical issues are nobodies business. 
What if I refuse medical treatment. Will they make me get insurance?
why?
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03-27-2012, 10:00 AM
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Re: Obamacare goes to Supreme Court Monday
The audiotape of the individual mandate oral argument will be available this afternoon on the Supreme Court's website by 2:00 p.m. eastern time. You can access the Court's website here - http://www.supremecourt.gov/
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03-27-2012, 10:06 AM
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Re: Obamacare goes to Supreme Court Monday
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Obama Lawyer Laughed at In Supreme Court
On the first day of health care reform arguments before the Supreme Court, two justices needled a top Obama lawyer for simultaneously calling the fine that will be paid under the law for not purchasing insurance a “penalty” and a “tax.”
“General Verrilli, today you are arguing that the penalty is not a tax. Tomorrow you are going to be back and you will be arguing that the penalty is a tax,” said Justice Samuel Alito, in one of the few laugh lines throughout the 90 minutes of argument Monday.
http://nation.foxnews.com/obamacare/...-supreme-court
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This video has been taken down, but what it does underscore and what is going to pose as a problem for the Federal Government and Obamacare is the inability to consistently label the provisions in the Healthcare bill.
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