Creflo Dollar

[Aquila]

Wow.

I certainly understand his anger and frustration at his daughter's defiance. However, getting that physical with a 15 year old isn't very wise.

Could he have told her not to go and walked out of the room... and if she left... could he have called the police and register her as a runaway? Let the police manhandle her.

[SiblingRevelry]

I have to ask: If it's a crime (battery) to hit an adult, why isn't it a crime to hit a child?

Basically, if Creflo Dollar had hit his daughter and she was 18 years and a day old, there would be no question about being charged with battery (there could and should be a question about his guilt/innocence). But she's 15. Can he just hit her and there be no consequences because she's a minor?

We prosecute husbands and wives who hit each other (domestic battery). Why does it take a kid getting half-beaten to death before the state will step in and prosecute? Is it because the parents and their co-religionists will step up and say that it's their prerogative to spare the rod and spoil the child?

What kind of example are people setting for the world when they whack their kids?

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For the record, my mother used to hit me and my siblings with a metal flyswatter when I was a child. All it did was turn me into a better liar. I did grow up to be a law-abiding citizen, I don't think it was the whacks that kept me on the straight and narrow. Rather, it was my father telling me (and my siblings) bluntly that if we got into trouble, he would not bail us out of jail.

[Margies3]

I don't know the first thing about this case - and frankly, don't care to. I will let the authorities determine how it should be handled.

However, I will share one thing with you that we've experienced lately. My brother has two daughters who he's raised completely on his own. His ex-wife was a drug addict, alcoholic and a whore (literally) who walked out when his youngest was a baby, then walked in front of a car when she was high/drunk when the youngest was 3 and was killed instantly. So he's done the best he could with the girls, working full time, raising them, sacrificing for them and being both mother and father as needed. So now they are 22 and 18. The 22 year old is unmarried, has a baby who is 1 year old and is so much like her mother it is not funny. The 18 year old just graduated high school and is a trip and a half! The whole world revolves around her. She will tell you flat out "it's MY way or NO way!". Neither of them will do a thing around the house to help out, even tho Dad goes to work at 3:30 am and works 10-12 hour days to keep a roof over their heads. I mean that literally. NOTHING. They do absolutely nothing. And they fight with each other constantly. Sometimes literally - knock down, drag out. He finally got tired of it and told Chelsea after her graduation that it was time for her to grow up and move out on her own. So she went to the police and asked if he could do that!!! And guess what - He CAN't!! He has to give them an eviction notice ($200 cost for that) and 30 days. Hello? Its HIS house!! But nope. That's not how it works.

I say all that to say, maybe this guy abused his daughter. Or maybe he didn't. We don't really know. But what we do know is that our system is sick and it is very possible for him to be accused and/or convicted of something that never happened or that was certainly much more minor than it was made out to be. Let's not crucify him just yet. On the other hand, if there ever is proof that his abuse was what she says - then shame on him and hang him out to dry!

[Falla39]

Perhaps some parents have waited too late to start "training up a child" in the way they SHOULD go! I'll tell you for sure, I would not have dared to argued with my late father about going to a "party". I would have "feared" to argue with my parents. I learned to Reverence and Respect my parents and grandparents, before I learned to fear (respect and reverence) my GOD! I knew they loved me and wanted the best for me. Later this would be transferred to my Father in Heaven.

Don't know what kind of party it was, but if my Dad had not approved, I would not have went a step farther. His word would have been the last word! I highly respected my father and mother.
Today I claim them as my late earthly heros! Along with Grandma Lizzie, etc!

If children don't honor and respect their father and mother, they have no promise of long life.

Many children from the previous generation did not respect their parents, and followed not in the ways of God as did their parents. Today they are parents and their children have no respect or reverence for their parents, OR their Grandparent's GOD!! It will only get worse until someone realizes and repents of the neglect and disobedience of the WORD OF GOD!

When young children disrespect their parents, it may be that the parents didn't demand respect when they were small. Respect must start early. When teenagers argue, and they talk back and show disrespect, it angers parents and it many times provokes them to anger. The Bible gives instruction to fathers in:
Ephesians 6:4 kjv
"And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord".

When parents do what the WORD instructs them to do, it usually, if not always, works out!

We eleven siblings of our parents were/maybe not have been perfect! BUT we were TRAINED UP, in the fear and admonition of the LORD! Our parents did their part! They did not consider themselves perfect, but did their best. They looked to God, just as others, to do what they may have lacked, in wisdom, ability, etc. GOD WILL DO THE PERFECTING!

Falla39

[Dagwood]

Originally Posted by Falla39

Perhaps some parents have waited too late to start "training up a child" in the way they SHOULD go! I'll tell you for sure, I would not have dared to argued with my late father about going to a "party". I would have "feared" to argue with my parents. I learned to Reverence and Respect my parents and grandparents, before I learned to fear (respect and reverence) my GOD! I knew they loved me and wanted the best for me. Later this would be transferred to my Father in Heaven.

Don't know what kind of party it was, but if my Dad had not approved, I would not have went a step farther. His word would have been the last word! I highly respected my father and mother.
Today I claim them as my late earthly heros! Along with Grandma Lizzie, etc!

If children don't honor and respect their father and mother, they have no promise of long life.

Many children from the previous generation did not respect their parents, and followed not in the ways of God as did their parents. Today they are parents and their children have no respect or reverence for their parents, OR their Grandparent's GOD!! It will only get worse until someone realizes and repents of the neglect and disobedience of the WORD OF GOD!

When young children disrespect their parents, it may be that the parents didn't demand respect when they were small. Respect must start early. When teenagers argue, and they talk back and show disrespect, it angers parents and it many times provokes them to anger. The Bible gives instruction to fathers in:
Ephesians 6:4 kjv
"And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord".

When parents do what the WORD instructs them to do, it usually, if not always, works out!

We eleven siblings of our parents were/maybe not have been perfect! BUT we were TRAINED UP, in the fear and admonition of the LORD! Our parents did their part! They did not consider themselves perfect, but did their best. They looked to God, just as others, to do what they may have lacked, in wisdom, ability, etc. GOD WILL DO THE PERFECTING!

Falla39

[Cindy]

The police go by visible injuries in any domestic violence situation. I am wondering where the Mom is in all this, and think there is more to this story.

[CC1]

If I had a Dollar for every time.......

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