Holiness

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Being holy is being pure. It is being separated to the will of God.

Brother MTD, can you expound a little more about what makes us pure and separated to the will of God?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Brother MTD, can you expound a little more about what makes us pure and separated to the will of God?

Sure. It starts with the new birth. Repenting, being baptized into Jesus in water and spirit. When one does that he is in Christ. He is actually (because he is a new creation) holy and pure right then and there.

Due to the Holy Ghost power in him he is now able to live as Jesus lived. Through the learning of the commands of Jesus he begins to know how to walk and please God.

Here would be an example.

Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more. 2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus. 1 Thess. 4:1-2

So what is this enabling power the Holy Ghost brings a disciple?

5 And hope maketh not ashamed ; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us. Romans 5:5

Yes its that simple! The power of love.

Now we are able to fulfill the first and great commandment.

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. Matt. 22:36-38

God puts within us a measure of love from him and for him. That is the power that works in us. If one loves him they will want to please him.

4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. John 15:4-5

This "abiding in Jesus" is being holy. Staying attached to him. We are to make it our LIFE to see to it that this happens.

1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For ye are dead , and your life is hid with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear , then shall ye also appear with him in glory. 5 Mortify therefore your members which are on the earth;up fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:

Thats it in a nutshell.

[Truthseeker]

I think it has something to do with cleansing ourselves of flithiness of spirt and flesh.

[Sam]

I posted several things about this in a recent thread here.
No need to repeat them.
If interested you can read them at
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ghlight=Wimber


I present several viewpoints there

[Michael The Disciple]

The way one dresses is not in itself "holiness". Yet how one dresses does have something to do with holiness. We have instructions from the Apostles so we are to separate ourselves to what Jesus likes.

Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. 3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. 1 Peter 3:1-4

8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting. 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 1 Tim. 2:8-10

If we want to be holy we need to embrace the teachings of the holy one.

[Amanah]

We consecrate/separate/dedicate ourselves to God, and God makes us holy with his Spirit.


http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/...gs=H6942&t=KJV

1) to consecrate, sanctify, prepare, dedicate, be hallowed, be holy, be sanctified, be separate

a) (Qal)

1) to be set apart, be consecrated

2) to be hallowed

3) consecrated, tabooed

b) (Niphal)

1) to show oneself sacred or majestic

2) to be honoured, be treated as sacred

3) to be holy

c) (Piel)

1) to set apart as sacred, consecrate, dedicate

2) to observe as holy, keep sacred

3) to honour as sacred, hallow

4) to consecrate

d) (Pual)

1) to be consecrated

2) consecrated, dedicated

e) (Hiphil)

1) to set apart, devote, consecrate

2) to regard or treat as sacred or hallow

3) to consecrate

f) (Hithpael)

1) to keep oneself apart or separate

2) to cause Himself to be hallowed (of God)

3) to be observed as holy

4) to consecrate oneself

[trialedbyfire]

Originally Posted by BroJoe

Holiness is not just about outward appearances. Holiness starts inwardly and works itself outwardly. The appearance is the last thing on the list, in my opinion.

I personally believe all aspects of holiness are equal in importance, outward and inward.

[BroJoe]

Originally Posted by trialedbyfire

I personally believe all aspects of holiness are equal in importance, outward and inward.

Cool.

Either way, without holiness no man shall see the father.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Sure. It starts with the new birth. Repenting, being baptized into Jesus in water and spirit. When one does that he is in Christ. He is actually (because he is a new creation) holy and pure right then and there.

Due to the Holy Ghost power in him he is now able to live as Jesus lived. Through the learning of the commands of Jesus he begins to know how to walk and please God.

Here would be an example.

Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more. 2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus. 1 Thess. 4:1-2

So what is this enabling power the Holy Ghost brings a disciple?

5 And hope maketh not ashamed ; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us. Romans 5:5

Yes its that simple! The power of love.

Now we are able to fulfill the first and great commandment.

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. Matt. 22:36-38

God puts within us a measure of love from him and for him. That is the power that works in us. If one loves him they will want to please him.

4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. John 15:4-5

This "abiding in Jesus" is being holy. Staying attached to him. We are to make it our LIFE to see to it that this happens.

1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For ye are dead , and your life is hid with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear , then shall ye also appear with him in glory. 5 Mortify therefore your members which are on the earth;up fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:

Thats it in a nutshell.

I like how you cracked your nutshell Great words, and a great analogy from scripture of how our life in Christ is living in the vine with Christ Jesus, - truly abiding in Him each and every day. That is true holiness.

[Falla39]

John 16:13
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Acts 1:8
But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Romans 1: 3-6
3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:

Romans 12:1,2

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Heb. 12:14
14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:


I believe that after we have received the Holy Ghost, the spirit of truth, will lead and guide us, as we grow in grace and in the knowledge of our LORD and Savior, Jesus Christ.
We MUST desire the sincere milk of the Word, that we might go thereby. We must learn to walk in the Spirit as we grow. They that are led by the Spirit, they will become the sons and daughters of the Living God. HE IS HOLY, and His Word tells us :

1Peter1:14-16
14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:

15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;

16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

Children that were never disciplined or trained up, in the way they SHOULD go, will not likely grow up to adults who want someone to tell them what to do. Many have a problem with authority, any kind of authority. They may not have had anyone who taught them that there are things you should do and things you should not do. Many young people are in reform schools, etc., today because they listened to no one. The attitute, "I don't have to obey you, you're not my boss, or parent, etc.". No one corrected them so they had no example of authority. Correction institutions are full today of young people who never learned to obey anyone. Could it be that there is a generation who have grown up with the attitude of "No one is going to tell me what to do"! Also there are adults who perhaps heard their parents say, "I don't agree with ....., so we are not going to do or not do that. Or perhaps parents who never learned to say NO to their children, so when faced with an authority figure later in life, their children rebelled.
Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.

What was Israel's problem! Idolatry! They rebelled against a HOLY GOD! Of course the LAW could make no man righteouos, but TODAY the HOLY GHOST/SPIRIT (same thing) CAN! Holiness is a spirit that comes from the leading of THE HOLY GHOST!! Follow peace with all men and Holiness, without which no man/woman will see the LORD!

Falla39