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07-12-2012, 08:09 PM
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Re: romney lies to american people
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The actual point is that Romney has put out an ad calling Obama a liar. So, now it is turning into a tit for tat on who is the biggest liar. That's to be expected.
And I do want to see Romney's tax returns. I want to know where his money came from and how much he had overseas. I also want him to release his records at Bain that he isn't willing to show us.
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His relevant tax returns have been released.
An obvious lack of understanding on the part of some in the media as to what it means to be " “a passive, limited partner [with] no management capacity." This is not only what he claims today but what was filed with the Massachusetts State Ethics Commission in 2002.
Where his money came from and how much he has overseas is relevant to what? It is not illegal or dishonest to invest overseas.
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07-12-2012, 08:12 PM
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Re: romney lies to american people
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His relevant tax returns have been released.
An obvious lack of understanding on the part of some in the media as to what it means to be " “a passive, limited partner [with] no management capacity." This is not only what he claims today but what was filed with the Massachusetts State Ethics Commission in 2002.
Where his money came from and how much he has overseas is relevant to what? It is not illegal or dishonest to invest overseas.
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He's running for President of the United States on his business record, but he won't go beyond disclosing 2010 and an estimate for 2011. Having accounts in Switzerland, Bermuda, and the Cayman Island is going to be a reflection on his values and commitment to a country he is wanting to lead.
It is only relevant to me because, he refuses to talk about it. That makes it look like he is hiding something. We should know everything about any one person running for the highest office in the land. That is how I feel about it. No secrets. If you don't want to live in a glass house - all around - stay out of the running.
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07-12-2012, 08:33 PM
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Re: romney lies to american people
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He's running for President of the United States on his business record, but he won't go beyond disclosing 2010 and an estimate for 2011. Having accounts in Switzerland, Bermuda, and the Cayman Island is going to be a reflection on his values and commitment to a country he is wanting to lead.
It is only relevant to me because, he refuses to talk about it. That makes it look like he is hiding something. We should know everything about any one person running for the highest office in the land. That is how I feel about it. No secrets. If you don't want to live in a glass house - all around - stay out of the running.
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Many people file for extensions and offering only an estimate on 2011 is fair.
He has met the minimum requirements, why so hostile?
Secrets? Or a way to avoid letting the Obama camp complain about what another American does with their own money.
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Many people file for extensions and offering only an estimate on 2011 is fair.
He has met the minimum requirements, why so hostile?
Secrets? Or a way to avoid letting the Obama camp complain about what another American does with their own money.
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Obama's camp has it's own huge problems. But, that isn't going to take away from the problems that Romney has.
It was under party pressure that Romney even released his 2010 returns. He didn't mention the Swiss account or his other funds in foreign countries. He then had to make an amendment to his return filing an extension.
That is what got the ball rolling and it's his own fault. He was looking sneaky by moving his Swiss account into his wife's name before he ran for Governor placing it into a blind trust.
He has 6 Cayman accounts that are worth $7 and 32 million which are run by Bain. He closed the Swiss account before running for President. His Bermuda tax havens are in jurisdictions where there is virtually no tax or compliance. So, we don't really know what he's got or what he is worth.
Earlier this summer he reported receiving new income ($2M) from Bain. Bain has 138 funds set up in the Cayman Islands. He has interests in at least twelve, claiming he doesn't save on not paying taxes. But we don't really know or have any way to find out because, it's all hidden behind confidentiality disclaimers.
It just looks like something the American people need to know about their presumptive leader, IMO.
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Obama's camp has it's own huge problems. But, that isn't going to take away from the problems that Romney has.
It was under party pressure that Romney even released his 2010 returns. He didn't mention the Swiss account or his other funds in foreign countries. He then had to make an amendment to his return filing an extension.
That is what got the ball rolling and it's his own fault. He was looking sneaky by moving his Swiss account into his wife's name before he ran for Governor placing it into a blind trust.
He has 6 Cayman accounts that are worth $7 and 32 million which are run by Bain. He closed the Swiss account before running for President. His Bermuda tax havens are in jurisdictions where there is virtually no tax or compliance. So, we don't really know what he's got or what he is worth.
Earlier this summer he reported receiving new income ($2M) from Bain. Bain has 138 funds set up in the Cayman Islands. He has interests in at least twelve, claiming he doesn't save on not paying taxes. But we don't really know or have any way to find out because, it's all hidden behind confidentiality disclaimers.
It just looks like something the American people need to know about their presumptive leader, IMO.
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So what?
He has money, good for him.
You act as if these things you are saying make him a bad person.
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07-12-2012, 09:09 PM
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Money cometh..............
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Re: romney lies to american people
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So what?
He has money, good for him.
You act as if these things you are saying make him a bad person.
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No Sir, that is not my angle. I want transparency with a nominee if he has money in foreign tax havens. I want to know how much he is worth and why he stutters when the issue is brought up.
He isn't required to disclose, but there has been a long standing precedent to do it.
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07-12-2012, 09:21 PM
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Re: romney lies to american people
It was OK for FDR, JFK, John Kerry and other wealthy people to run for President but not for Mittens?
It's OK for our Senators and Representatives to have offshore bank accounts but not for Mitt Romney?
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