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09-20-2012, 07:25 PM
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Redneck for Him.
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There's no deception like a great deception.
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You got that right. And yet people continue to add to the Bible 
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09-20-2012, 08:02 PM
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"
My friend in the church has been having some problems with it. Can be hard when something has been taught wrong for so long then changed to being ok. Sisters wearing big round earrings, pants, shorts on men. I think it's understandable for some to have a hard time with it.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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09-20-2012, 09:14 PM
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
My friend in the church has been having some problems with it. Can be hard when something has been taught wrong for so long then changed to being ok. Sisters wearing big round earrings, pants, shorts on men. I think it's understandable for some to have a hard time with it.
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Sudden change is never good even if it is towards something right. You can't pull the rug, so to speak, out from under people. You can't take people who have been taught a laundry list of things are sins for many years then in a short period of time tell them that it isn't.
A lot of teaching over a period of time has to prepare people to look at their Christian walk with a fresh set of eyes and not through the lens of what has been pounded into them for years.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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09-20-2012, 09:23 PM
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"
I don't care what you say, I'm still not drinking coffee.
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09-21-2012, 04:28 AM
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This is still that!
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"
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Originally Posted by Norman
I don't care what you say, I'm still not drinking coffee.
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not even disguised as ice cream? 
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09-21-2012, 05:52 AM
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"
I think you need to ask yourself before you make a major change what is my motive? Why do I want to go this new direction?
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09-21-2012, 06:32 AM
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"
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Originally Posted by CC1
Sudden change is never good even if it is towards something right. You can't pull the rug, so to speak, out from under people. You can't take people who have been taught a laundry list of things are sins for many years then in a short period of time tell them that it isn't.
A lot of teaching over a period of time has to prepare people to look at their Christian walk with a fresh set of eyes and not through the lens of what has been pounded into them for years.
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One thing he said was he wished it was handled differently. Maybe a church meerting would have been order.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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09-21-2012, 01:33 PM
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
One thing he said was he wished it was handled differently. Maybe a church meerting would have been order.
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Agree with CC1. Surely there is some teaching incorporated with the change so as not to cause mass confusion. I think most of us would agree that observation of this sort has resulted in a lot of harm and distrust. I have always been a fairly independent thinker which comes from my raising before pentecost. I don't find this to be the case with a majority. They find themselves trying to figure out what to do now to stay in good grace with their pastor. It often exposes the spiritual weaknesses that have been prevalent all along.
Last edited by returnman; 09-21-2012 at 01:41 PM.
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09-24-2012, 07:27 AM
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"
I feel bad for this saint....especially because they are having to wrestle with this confusion. I do believe the church needs to teach the principles of modesty, separation, and holiness....in my honest opinion, there is nothing wrong with house rules either....that is to say, when the assembly is gathered together in service or for a function in the community, this is how we are to look...etc.
The biggest difference, in my opinion, is that there needs to be liberty granted in the other aspects of the christians life.....I always use the terms...house rules and life rules...there is/can be a difference.
I know the word "balance" often gets abused in the way it is used, but certainly it does apply to this type of situation.
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09-24-2012, 10:39 AM
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
My friend in the church has been having some problems with it. Can be hard when something has been taught wrong for so long then changed to being ok. Sisters wearing big round earrings, pants, shorts on men. I think it's understandable for some to have a hard time with it.
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This is one reason why legalism is spiritual blood poison.
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