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12-03-2012, 12:48 PM
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Rebel with a cause.
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Re: Why is it that...
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Originally Posted by kclee4jc
So sick of arguments like this.
Let me ask something. Does this "liberty" really stem from consistent and fervant prayer and hearing from God? From real, consistent spiritual interaction? If it does I am convinced we must be led by two different spirits. Because the more time I spend in the presence of Jesus the more I become aware of the corruption around me and the more I am persuaded to "lay aside every weight and sin".
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I think the real issue is what people consider "Weight and sin".
Many legalists (not all) believe sin to be anything that violates "standards", but don't spend a lot of time on issues of the heart, such as bitterness, hatred, envy, gossip, backbiting, etc.
Many liberals (not all) realize that many of our man made standards have little, if anything, to do with sin, and focus more on actions rather than appearance.
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"Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
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12-03-2012, 01:10 PM
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Re: Why is it that...
Well some conservatives are very hard core on outward things.
And some liberals kind of flaunt their "liberties.".
But, I think the majority of both sides love God and try to live their convictions. They're are just not that interesting to talk about.
And attitude has a lot to do with it. If we don't have the attitude of Jesus, we are missing something important.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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12-03-2012, 01:34 PM
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Repent and believe the Gospel!
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Jacksonville FL
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Re: Why is it that...
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Originally Posted by tv1a
Legalists don't understand grace.
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Your statement is half correct. Legalistic understand and want grace for themselves but don't give or understand it for others.
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Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. (Romans 14:4)
Scripture is its own interpreter. Nothing can cut a diamond but a diamond. Nothing can interpret Scripture but Scripture" Thomas Watson.
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12-03-2012, 10:34 PM
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God's Son
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Re: Why is it that...
Legalists don't have to spend time on attitudes as long as they look the part.
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
I think the real issue is what people consider "Weight and sin".
Many legalists (not all) believe sin to be anything that violates "standards", but don't spend a lot of time on issues of the heart, such as bitterness, hatred, envy, gossip, backbiting, etc.
Many liberals (not all) realize that many of our man made standards have little, if anything, to do with sin, and focus more on actions rather than appearance.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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12-03-2012, 10:39 PM
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God's Son
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Re: Why is it that...
A legalist believes it's okay to gossip as long as it's true and already public. The same person will say a person will split hell open if a person has a 3 person concept of God.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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12-04-2012, 09:30 AM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Zion aka TEXAS
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Re: Why is it that...
Hypocrites have no problem generalising and categorizing others according to the most awful characteristics imaginable, while complaining when others do the same about them.
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