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Old 12-17-2012, 10:40 AM
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Why is it okay to kill babies before they're born, and not after?
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:43 AM
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:46 AM
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Why is it okay to kill babies before they're born, and not after?
What a great question to ask... a girl can have a baby in a toilet, drown it, and be convicted of murder... yet, she could have went down to an abortion clinic, and had it murdered inside her womb with a forceps and knife and never be considered a murderer.

Incredibly sickening, and disgusting to see where this mindset has taken our country.
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Bluring two very serious issues.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:18 AM
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Bluring two very serious issues.
Really? Both dead because of outside intervention.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:28 AM
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From the outset, I’d like to say that I do NOT agree with abortion itself. However, there are some issues that no one appears to be considering. In my opinion, abortion and the massacre in Newtown shouldn’t be compared. Here’s why I think so…

The abortion issue is about civil liberties and the power of GOVERNMENT over a woman’s body. The 4th Amendment protects against unlawful searches and seizures of an individual’s person, property, papers, and/or effects. For the GOVERNMENT to ban abortion, it would essentially have to seize the bodies of every pregnant woman and use its inherent police power to FORCE a woman to give birth. This essentially relegates pregnant women to being “breeders” in our society. Then we are faced with the issue of “criminalization”. What would be the charge? If the charge is “murder” there isn’t a statute of limitations on murder. Therefore, EVERY woman who has ever procured an abortion would have to be hunted down and brought to justice. The charge? Murder. To do anything less would downgrade the seriousness of the issue. Even when abortion was illegal the charge wasn’t necessarily “murder” and the most that could happen was a short stint of jail time (in some cases), a fine, and perhaps the loss of a medical license. To return to this also lessens the seriousness of the issue if we are to believe the rhetoric and causes me to wonder, "Why bother?"

Then we have the issue of exceptions. Let’s say that a woman is in a very serious situation and her doctor believes that abortion should be an option to preserve her life or health??? Do we go with that doctor’s opinion? Do we require a panel of doctors to agree that abortion should be an option??? How do we clear the decision of these doctors through the courts? And what if it is an election year and allowing her to die could make some die hard on the issue look more “Pro-Life”??? If it were my wife on the table… I believe that decision should strictly be between my wife and I… our God… and our doctor. I wouldn’t want a GOVERNMENT bureaucrat calling shots that directly affect my wife’s life and/or health.

Because of all of these complications, and others not mentioned, many believe that although abortion is a terrible thing… it’s best to leave the power of choice in the hands of individual women. A GOVERNMENT that can prohibit abortion and force a woman to give birth… can mandate abortion and force a woman to abort. Keep GOVERNMENT out of it.

The school shooting is more of an issue regarding effective parenting and monitoring of our kids as they grow up… and school security.

It sounds to me like the liberals are going to degrade the issue and exploit the issue to advance gun control… and this post is degrading the issue and exploiting it to advance Pro-Life abortion politics.

We need to end the hate and come down to some common sense resolutions without venomous rhetoric. The tension being created in our society, in my opinion, is partly to blame. If everyone would just SHUT UP and endeavor to live at peace with one another we wouldn’t have such a high stress and fragmented society wherein so many with serious mental issues fall through the cracks and snap.

In my opinion… abortion is legal… it’s a woman’s choice. Legally, get over it. Now, work on addressing those issues that women in crisis pregnancies face and offer alternatives to abortion.

In my opinion… the 2nd Amendment protects our right to bear arms. Legally, get over it. Now, work on addressing those issues that drive crazed lunatics to commit such terrible acts. Reduce the hate. Improve school security.

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Old 12-17-2012, 11:30 AM
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The Right Left paradigm that is ripping our nation apart needs to end. We need to be adults and come to a concensus. Preachers, politicians, radio talk show hosts, and "would be prophets" should be run out of town on a rail if they dont' SHUT UP and understand the necessity for social peace... or the blood of children is on their hands. They are creating such social unrest... people are snapping.

We need to be adult enough to accept some things that we don't agree with because the alternatives are just far worse.

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Old 12-17-2012, 01:15 PM
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Re: Numb To The Killing Of Children

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Why is it okay to kill babies before they're born, and not after?
Because we're trained for the sake of "civility" to not call abortion what it is: infanticide.

We have to hide from "divisive" terms and "angry rhetoric". Jesus called the Pharisees vipers. I'll call abortionists what they are murderers.

I won't lie for the sake of civility.
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Because we're trained for the sake of "civility" to not call abortion what it is: infanticide.

We have to hide from "divisive" terms and "angry rhetoric". Jesus called the Pharisees vipers. I'll call abortionists what they are murderers.

I won't lie for the sake of civility.
And this is where some nutcase with a loose screw takes it upon himself to "killer the murderers" and doctors, women, and often innocent medical staff are at risk. Maybe some nutcase creats a WMD and decides to judge America for "infanticide".

This is the kind of stupid talk that needs to end. Abortion is abortion. The GOVERNMENT doesn't force women to abort nor to have their children. Individual women choose abortion. They are the ones who have to bear this sin.

Frankly, I think the GOVERNMENT should stay out of it. No GOVERNMENT should have the power to seize a woman's body and force her to abort or give birth.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:36 PM
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What if a Pro-Life nutcase decides to blow up a school in a liberal stronghold in the NE because they feel the liberals need to feel the loss of their children because of all the children "their policies have murdered???"

This is dangerous talk. The world is getting too crazy to talk like this. Those wreckless enough to talk like this share the blame before God in my opinion.

Everyone has blood on their hands.

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