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Digging4Truth · #11 04-24-2013, 10:50 AM

I am saddened for the kids. It is a terrible situation all together.

But I think it is a dangerous situation to persecute or prosecute someone for holding to their personal beliefs. I have seen it said that they are a black eye for Christianity when, one might say, they held on believing God where most of us would have failed. And that is a black eye? If they would have done the same thing and God would have healed completely at the last moment then we'd be booking these people to speak at our churches.

The thing is that most of us would have had our kids at the doctors office. I would have. But I have a real problem with bringing legal charges against someone who simply held to their faith and belief that God would heal.

RandyWayne · #12 04-24-2013, 10:52 AM

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The answer is simple. God is capable of instantaneous or progressive healing all by himself but he also has given man intelligence to make his life better through knowledge. I think it is a slap in God's face to ignore this gift of intellect and the benefits it can bring which is what someone is doing when they refuse to allow medical treatment.

Reminds me of the story about the man in the flood who refused a neighbors ride to safety in a 4 wheel drive SUV as the water started coming into the house on the grounds that "God would take care of him". A short time later as he was looking out the 2nd floor window because water had risen on the ground floor search and rescue came by with a boat and urged him to get in to be taken to safety. He once again declined saying that God would protect him. Before long he ended up on the roof of his house as the water continued to rise. a military helicopter came and hovered overhead and sent a rescuer down in a rope but the man sent the rescuer back up alone telling him that God would protect him.

The water soon completely covered the house and the man drowned. When he got to heaven in astonishment he asked the Lord "What am I doing here? I trusted you to save me!" To which the Lord replied "I sent a SUV, boat, and helicopter! What more did you want?

I certainly have faith in God to protect, save (in the physical sense), provide, and heal me. But I WILL jump in a boat during a flood, go to the doctor when my appendix ruptures, work in order to make money to buy food, and shoot first and ask questions later when my home is invaded.

navygoat1998 · #13 04-24-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I certainly have faith in God to protect, save (in the physical sense), provide, and heal me. But I WILL jump in a boat during a flood, go to the doctor when my appendix ruptures, work in order to make money to buy food, and shoot first and ask questions later when my home is invaded.

And wash my hands after going pee

RandyWayne · #14 04-24-2013, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

I am saddened for the kids. It is a terrible situation all together.

But I think it is a dangerous situation to persecute or prosecute someone for holding to their personal beliefs. I have seen it said that they are a black eye for Christianity when, one might say, they held on believing God where most of us would have failed. And that is a black eye? If they would have done the same thing and God would have healed completely at the last moment then we'd be booking these people to speak at our churches.

The thing is that most of us would have had our kids at the doctors office. I would have. But I have a real problem with bringing legal charges against someone who simply held to their faith and belief that God would heal.

Like I originally said the problem here is that you have parents like this who refuse to do SIMPLE things to save their kids lives which then results in a backlash causing politicians to criminalize parents who choose to not go through with more extreme measures like chemo.

RandyWayne · #15 04-24-2013, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by navygoat1998

And wash my hands after going pee

Digging4Truth · #16 04-24-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Like I originally said the problem here is that you have parents like this who refuse to do SIMPLE things to save their kids lives which then results in a backlash causing politicians to criminalize parents who choose to not go through with more extreme measures like chemo.

Which is why I am against criminal prosecution.

You can have your kids taken away from you if you don't force them to take Ridilan etc when the school decides they need them. These are bad and slippery slopes.