When You Die... - Page 2

bbyrd009 · #11 05-07-2013, 03:06 PM

I take it as a given that what happens after death is just more than the human mind is made to comprehend. Solomon also said "No one knows where they go when they die."

Aquila · #12 05-07-2013, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Apples and Oranges. I never said there cant be temporary resurrections. They happened in scripture. They could happen today.

What scripture teaches is that when one actually dies (unless they are temporarily resurrected for Gods purpose) they are no longer alive.

Or maybe they consciously exist on a spiritual plane (Heaven or Hell) and God is just allowing them to interact with the earthly plane. For example, Samuel's spirit prophesied against Saul without needing to be updated as to what was going on with the nation. Your doctrine would have Moses and Elijah being temporarily resurrected, were their bodies temporarily resurrected also? Or did they have "spiritual forms" that were making themselves visible on our plane of existence? Also... your doctrine would have them appearing in either temporarily resurrected physical bodies or spiritual bodies having come from a state of unconsciousness that would have been many hundreds and perhaps in Moses' case, thousands, of years. Being unconcious and non-existant... did God raise them magically knowing what was going on? Were they disoriented needing to be filled in on what they missed the past thousand years or so?

If I'm right... they were present with the LORD and well aware of what was happening on earth. Just like the souls in Heaven in the book of Revelation.

This is JW doctrine Michael. It's error. And the sad thing is... you know it.

Aquila · #13 05-07-2013, 03:11 PM

Temporary resurrections. Convenient. LOL!!!

Dordrecht · #14 05-07-2013, 03:18 PM

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Solomon also said "No one knows where they go when they die."

Where is that scripture?

Dedicated Mind · #15 05-07-2013, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Apples and Oranges. I never said there cant be temporary resurrections. They happened in scripture. They could happen today.

What scripture teaches is that when one actually dies (unless they are temporarily resurrected for Gods purpose) they are no longer alive.

makes absolutely no sense

bbyrd009 · #16 05-07-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dordrecht

Where is that scripture?

Ecclesiastes. I tracked it down once...that may be the RSV or something, not sure. I'll try to go look real quick, but I'm not on a good pc for that.

bbyrd009 · #17 05-07-2013, 04:22 PM

Ecclesiastes 5:16, alt rendering; but really, common sense. You have no idea where you are 'going' after you die, and no one on this earth has any more knowledge than you on the matter.

And, as much as most 'ordained' people might like to think that they can 'reassure' someone here, they cannot; and they contradict Scripture--which I can also find for you--when they say they can.

Thank you, God, for taking such good care of me!

'Tomorrow' is a figment of your imagination, folks; and God does not want you 'dwelling' there. All the answer you will ever get for 'tomorrow' is intentionally poetic, flowery hyperbole, because your mind is not equipped to understand the reality. Today has enough challenge in it for even you.

bbyrd009 · #18 05-07-2013, 04:30 PM

never gets old.

Dordrecht · #19 05-07-2013, 05:13 PM

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'Tomorrow' is a figment of your imagination, folks; and God does not want you 'dwelling' there. All the answer you will ever get for 'tomorrow' is intentionally poetic, flowery hyperbole, because your mind is not equipped to understand the reality. Today has enough challenge in it for even you.

Well, it's not what Jesus said.
A born again Christian KNOWS where he goes when he dies.