What is the Point?

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

But. . . . Without (human) shepherds, how will people determine who is worthy to be seated behind whoever is preaching?

Pastor row. I do see my friend Brother Tenney. I love that man, he has a very soft heart and is full of grace.

[larrylyates]

Originally Posted by barry72

You are correct. I have recently began to wake up and come to the realization that I wasn't doing anything. I have since been spending about 10 hours a week at nursing home's, passing out invite cards to waiters and waitresses. Should a pastor ever be too busy to win souls? I guess my problem is that I should be the one that is feeling left out a behind because I have been sleeping on this for so long. I should be able to look at my leaders and feel like I should be doing more. I do understand what you're saying.

There is a growing movement within apostolic circles. We refer to it as the Saint's Movement for lack of a better phrase. It involves active leadership training, aggressive yet compassionate outreach, praying for people house to house, hospital and nursing home ministry as well as CARE TEAM's which meet regularly in homes.

The total emphasis is getting the "Church" into the street, "doing the stuff."
We reach out to the rejected and outcast, addicts, alcoholics, homeless, etc.
In five years of doing this, the results have been amazing. We have a program called "Closing the backdoor." so we are able to increase retention. The leadership program focuses on getting every member involved in some area of personal ministry as quickly as possible. Tuesday nights are devoted to ministry training. The rest to community outreach.

Each CARE TEAM/Home Group is responsible for reaching their neighborhood in an organized and systematic way. We keep prayer lists for focus prayer. We have morning prayer at the Church every weekday from 5-7AM. People can stop by for 10 min before work, some stay the entire time. We have more than double in size, multiplied our home groups until we now have every neighborhood covered and a growing daughter work in an outlying area.

Your method works! Let your feeling of being alone, motivate you to inspire others. We didn't get here overnight, neither will you. But begin somewhere and watch the Lord work. You are right where you need to be. Keep up the good work.
(If you'd like more information and free resource, feel free to contact me)

[bbyrd009]

Man, Larry--does it have to be "organized and systematic?" Arg

[larrylyates]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Man, Larry--does it have to be "organized and systematic?" Arg

Ok, ok. Let's come up with a PC way of saying the same thing

I don't feel "organization and systematic" are bad, in and of themselves. They serve a useful purpose when kept in perspective. Jesus sent them out 2 by 2. He had the sit in groups of 50 and 100 to feed the 5000. Etc. Systematic simply means working from a plan. Start at "this" point and arrive at "this" one. Use the tools, don't let the tools use you!

[bbyrd009]

Ha, ok, well, I'd say that "organized and systematic" is the pc way...but I agree with you in spirit there.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Pastor row. I do see my friend Brother Tenney. I love that man, he has a very soft heart and is full of grace.

Lemme guess; front row, far left?

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Lemme guess; front row, far left?

Front row the elder man with the white hair. I am serious he is a good man. He really helped me deal with the junk and helped me see stuff differently.

He loves people.