Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

You don't know what you are talking about lady. We are the church. Church services should be a place where EVERYONE feels welcome and has a place especially the general service.

At least at a youth service they preach a regular message that even sinners can take to heart and go pray at an altar instead of celebrating a secular holiday with nothing but pretty words and presentations.

I see nothing about a special "youth service" in the Bible either. If young people chose to get together with each other and fellowship and serve God more power to them.

But this modern concept of youth meetings and youth Pastors is way off.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Renee29

Wow, you are obviously very angry about this subject.

The only issue I have with you is your self righteous determination that I am selfish when you don't know squat about me.

What is ironic is I was expecting some pharisee to come in all judgmental over it and do what you did.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I see nothing about a special "youth service" in the Bible either. If young people chose to get together with each other and fellowship and serve God more power to them.

But this modern concept of youth meetings and youth Pastors is way off.

You are right, but now we have to deal with the fact that if we don't go to EVERY service it's because you are selfish. According to Renee we gotta be there no matter who it's for, we gotta be there to "support" them even if all we are doing is enduring the great boredom.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Just so you understand I do agree with you. There was no Fathers day or Mothers day in the New Testament Church.

Thanks. I've seen this increase from a casual mention to a themed service with no preaching or a very light and quick message about mothers or fathers and then a mad dash to rush out to lunch....

There's no "supporting" as Renee tried to say. There is no altar working. You just sit there.

[Praxeas]

Speaking of selfish. Renee consider your own condition with the following verses

1Co 11:18 For, in the first place, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you. And I believe it in part,
1Co 11:19 for there must be factions among you in order that those who are genuine among you may be recognized.
1Co 11:20 When you come together, it is not the Lord's supper that you eat.
1Co 11:21 For in eating, each one goes ahead with his own meal. One goes hungry, another gets drunk.
1Co 11:22 What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and humiliate those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I commend you in this? No, I will not.

You'd probably tell the hungry one to just shut up and stop being selfish, right?

[Amanah]

Prax - I understand what you are saying. I lost my Son (only child) to a motorcycle accident and both my parents are deceased. I love God and love going to church, but I don't like going on Mother's day/Father's day either. It's painful for me.

[Amanah]

I'd much rather hear a message then see some of the Christmas/Easter productions I've seen. I'm not going to church to be "entertained." I'm likely to be move moved by Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ.

And I also realize it's not about me. but since the topic was brought up, I thought I'd share my feelings also.

[JamDat]

I have both parents yet and I have children of my own. I agree with Prax that church should be about preaching and teaching God.

I don't mind a nod of acknowledgement, but in our church it's bouquets of roses for some mothers and announcing which mother gets the best parking spot because people donated more money to that women for mother of the year. My wife will never be mother of the year because I forbid my children to participate in it. For fathers day all the fathers have to march up to the front to get their little flashlight or screwdriver.

It's a waste of time and insensitive to those can't have children or lost their children.

[gardenheart]

We always have a little program after the main service so if someone wanted to leave they could. The Bible has many scriptures how important fathers and mothers are to the raising of their children...so giving honor where honor is due and instruction and encouragement to those who need it is alright by me

[MarcBee]

There's dozens if not hundreds of extra-biblical concepts that churches "do" in order to 1. display a human face to the folks, and 2. in turn, pay the bills! Such concepts evolve because they are effective. However, I'm sure some pastors are these days scratching their heads to come up with a more "inclusive" Hallmark Mother's and Father's Day, considering the scaling away of the traditional family.