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Old 08-05-2013, 02:17 PM
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Re: Why The Wrath Of God Must Be Preached

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I feel ya. I've heard countless sermons that start out like this...

"Nobody wants to talk about it and it's never preached about anymore. Tonight... I'm going to preach to you about Hell."

The truth is... nearly every sermon I've ever heard was about escaping Hell in some way shape or form. lol

I've NEVER heard a sermon about Heaven and what the Bible teaches about our eternal home.
That's true.

Preachers who do so are nothing more than professors of escapism. Escapism is a poor substitute for relationship with God.

The sooner we realize eternity is now the better off we'll be. Those currently spiritually dead will remain in that state forever unless they are born again. Those who have been born again have ALREADY escaped Hell.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:26 PM
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Re: Why The Wrath Of God Must Be Preached

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Ah, but Jesse Morrel doesn't teach that all people are born sinners, helpless, depraved, and unable to repent and obey God, does he?

Therefore, he shouldn't expect to make much headway here.
Oh come on man...
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:31 PM
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Re: Why The Wrath Of God Must Be Preached

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Sorry, from my perspective there isn't a dearth of sermons regarding the wrath of God. It's remarkable that someone on an Apostolic forum could posit as much and be taken seriously.

In my 45 years of life I have never heard one sermon on grace or justification by faith from an Apostolic preacher.
Well my perspective is one who has never been a member of a "mainstream" Oneness Pentecostal Church. The wrath I have heard from Apostolics would be over some "dress code" or someone forgot to pay tithes.

It seems when Apostolics wake up and realize the man made traditions of the Apostolic groups they always go backward rather than forward. They usually cant bear to hear strong preaching anymore even if its fully Biblical. Generally they become consumed with bitterness rather than going deeper in Christ.

One is not going forward if they minimize the wrath of God. Its woven all through the Bible and just as real as it ever was.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:31 PM
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That's true.

Preachers who do so are nothing more than professors of escapism. Escapism is a poor substitute for relationship with God.

The sooner we realize eternity is now the better off we'll be. Those currently spiritually dead will remain in that state forever unless they are born again. Those who have been born again have ALREADY escaped Hell.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:33 PM
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I do not believe in unconditional eternal security but I do believe in assurance.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:34 PM
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That's true.

Preachers who do so are nothing more than professors of escapism. Escapism is a poor substitute for relationship with God.

The sooner we realize eternity is now the better off we'll be. Those currently spiritually dead will remain in that state forever unless they are born again. Those who have been born again have ALREADY escaped Hell.
Eternity is not now.

Therefore, brothers, be more diligent to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never stumble. 1:11 For thus you will be richly supplied with the entrance into the eternal Kingdom of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. 2 Peter 1:10

No one is yet in Heaven nor in Hell. If we do the things (in this life) Peter speaks of we will never fall.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:37 PM
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I do not believe in unconditional eternal security but I do believe in assurance.
I do... Jesus said
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:53 PM
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Re: Why The Wrath Of God Must Be Preached

If does not realize they are a sinner in need of salvation by the grace of God,they will perish. Only the through redemption provided by Jesus Christ,will one be able to escape destruction.
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Heres why preaching the righteousness and wrath of God is important more than ever.

Kids are going to public school for 13 years. They are constantly taught that sin is right and righteousness is wrong. This was not so when I was in school. Everyone understood at least BASIC righteousness.

The Lords prayer started our day at least the first few years I was there. People developed a CONSCIENCE.

Down the road in life mens conscience was an ally to the preached word of God. Men knew they had sinned.

Enter today. After 13 years of being taught God does not exist except perhaps as universal mind or lately even "allah" the young person graduates with no conscience.

The problem is one cannot be saved unless he knows he is lost. That he personally has sinned against the God of Heaven whom he has been taught does not even exist.

It makes our job harder because very few now believe in sin and righteousness so we must convince people they are sinners!

Of course this is done by the Holy Ghost working on both ends the "witness" and the sinner. Nonetheless unless one understands they are a sinner they cannot be saved.

Our unpopular task is to teach men that God is angry against sin and there are consequences unless they repent! To tell them yes they will go to Hell unless they accept HIS WAY of reconciliation through Jesus Christ alone.
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Re: Why The Wrath Of God Must Be Preached

I think the one thing that has been lost through the years is how much how much God does hate sin.
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