Four Fatal Flaws That Ruin Ministries

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

Grady is a compromiser.

Other than that, some good points.

What has he compromised on?

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Originalist

We Apostolics think we are immune to all of this, but "take heed he who thinks he stands lest he fall."

im not sure what circles you walk in but that isnt the case with me.

[Ferd]

good stuff.... I would add a fifth. and for me it is the number one flaw of ministry. At least those I have seen who fail all seem to have lost it....


That being losing the fear of God.

I have never once preached a sermon to the church about their need to fear God. I have taught this principle but within very constrained limits.

However, preachers need this hammered into their heads. No preacher can afford to lose their fear of God.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Ferd

good stuff.... I would add a fifth. and for me it is the number one flaw of ministry. At least those I have seen who fail all seem to have lost it....


That being losing the fear of God.

I have never once preached a sermon to the church about their need to fear God. I have taught this principle but within very constrained limits.

However, preachers need this hammered into their heads. No preacher can afford to lose their fear of God.

I'm not sure if you're using 'fear' here as in being scared that someone is going to hurt you, but the fear of God isn't that kind of fear. It's not possible to truly love someone and have that kind of fear toward them at the same time. Perfect love casts out fear, there's no place for that in a person's life who loves God.

Now, if by 'fear' you mean reverence, that's something different.

1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

[Esaias]

http://www.atruechurch.info/fearofgod.html

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Ferd

good stuff.... I would add a fifth. and for me it is the number one flaw of ministry. At least those I have seen who fail all seem to have lost it....


That being losing the fear of God.

I have never once preached a sermon to the church about their need to fear God. I have taught this principle but within very constrained limits.

However, preachers need this hammered into their heads. No preacher can afford to lose their fear of God.

This brings the sons of Eli to mind.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Esaias

http://www.atruechurch.info/fearofgod.html

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by n david

The other stuff on their site is pretty, er... 'wacky' comes to mind...

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by seekerman

I'm not sure if you're using 'fear' here as in being scared that someone is going to hurt you, but the fear of God isn't that kind of fear. It's not possible to truly love someone and have that kind of fear toward them at the same time. Perfect love casts out fear, there's no place for that in a person's life who loves God.

Now, if by 'fear' you mean reverence, that's something different.

1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

i use the term correctly.... eveyone should reverence God... but when we are talking about ministry, there are some areas that go beyond that.

I dont believe we live in fear (trembling sacared of the lightening bolt etc) but when you have the lives of others in your care, you better understand that God intends you take care of his children.

Every preacher I know that has fallen into sin, lost that. and found themselves shipwrecked.

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

What has he compromised on?

Did you read his article "The Other Pentecostals"?