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Old 11-10-2013, 09:43 PM
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Who does the anointing with oil?

Jas 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
Jas 5:15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
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Who gets the tithes?
That is an easy one! TV preacher.
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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That is an easy one! TV preacher.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM1JZrBRQ44
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Yup, now that the whole pesky bothersome part of having a pastor, teacher, elders, etc that the Bible talks about are gone out of his life.

I always find it amusing when folks post like you just did that somehow it is better for people not to be a part of a church even though the epistles clearly teach the role of pastors, teachers, etc in our lives.
It depends. Practically all of the Pastors, Teachers, and Elders out there now are teaching false doctrine. It may be the only way to save ourselves in such cases.

Now IF the said Ministers teach New Testament truth we are certainly to submit to them and walk in truth.
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Yup, now that the whole pesky bothersome part of having a pastor, teacher, elders, etc that the Bible talks about are gone out of his life.

I always find it amusing when folks post like you just did that somehow it is better for people not to be a part of a church even though the epistles clearly teach the role of pastors, teachers, etc in our lives.
Sometimes it is better to have no pastor at all than to have a bad pastor... If the way you read the bible doesn't allow you to admit that then you need to take a step back from your dogma and start living in the world that God actually created.
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Who gets the tithes?

There are no tithes in the NT.
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Who does the anointing with oil?

Jas 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
Jas 5:15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

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Heb_10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
We aeembled yesterday and had church. How is that "forsaking the assembling"?
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Ephesians chapter 4 beginning at verse 11 speaks to the role of the church, pastors, teaches, etc in the christian's life.

This is not to say there won't be a time in a person's life when they are between churches but those times should be few and far between and should not be for an extended period of time.

My observation over many decades is that if folks don't plug into another church in a timely manner they usually start to enjoy pastoring themselves even though it is not the biblical pattern for their spiritual growth.
Are pastor pastoring themselves? Furthermore, I do not plan to be hasty at all in my next step.
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Yup, now that the whole pesky bothersome part of having a pastor, teacher, elders, etc that the Bible talks about are gone out of his life.

I always find it amusing when folks post like you just did that somehow it is better for people not to be a part of a church even though the epistles clearly teach the role of pastors, teachers, etc in our lives.
An astute observation.
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