Question for Apostolics

[MarieA27]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

Wouldn't it be better then not to show people Jesus name baptism since they might reject it on grounds of obeying Jesus as per Matt 28:19?

No, because God said that He would require the blood at your hands for not doing what you were suppose to do in warning the person of their sins, or iniquity. Ezekial 3:18, 20, Ezekial 33:6, 8.

And also, just because a person didn't know about baptism in Jesus name, or the Holy Ghost, it doesn't automatically mean that they were living righteous lives according to all the right that they knew to do. I really don't know many apostolics who were living, or striving for God before they knew about this way. Many were doing whatever they wanted to do, was in various sins, not having a true yearning for salvation and God, and those that did have a yearning for something more was still living in sin.

God would judge that person according to the light that they know, but many don't even live righteous according to what they know, many times making excuses for their sins, making light of their wrong doing.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by MarieA27

No, because God said that He would require the blood at your hands for not doing what you were suppose to do in warning the person of their sins, or iniquity. Ezekial 3:18, 20, Ezekial 33:6, 8.

And also, just because a person didn't know about baptism in Jesus name, or the Holy Ghost, it doesn't automatically mean that they were living righteous lives according to all the right that they knew to do. I really don't know many apostolics who were living, or striving for God before they knew about this way. Many were doing whatever they wanted to do, was in various sins, not having a true yearning for salvation and God, and those that did have a yearning for something more was still living in sin.

God would judge that person according to the light that they know, but many don't even live righteous according to what they know, many times making excuses for their sins, making light of their wrong doing.

Some Apostolic's live the same way, it is not just your Baptist or Trinitraian Pentecostal neighbor.

[Luke]

Originally Posted by MarieA27

No, because God said that He would require the blood at your hands for not doing what you were suppose to do in warning the person of their sins, or iniquity. Ezekial 3:18, 20, Ezekial 33:6, 8.

And also, just because a person didn't know about baptism in Jesus name, or the Holy Ghost, it doesn't automatically mean that they were living righteous lives according to all the right that they knew to do. I really don't know many apostolics who were living, or striving for God before they knew about this way. Many were doing whatever they wanted to do, was in various sins, not having a true yearning for salvation and God, and those that did have a yearning for something more was still living in sin.

God would judge that person according to the light that they know, but many don't even live righteous according to what they know, many times making excuses for their sins, making light of their wrong doing.

So are you saying that if a person lives a righteous life by the standards of thier own understanding that person can go to heaven without ever having been saved through faith in Jesus?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by renee819

Yes, they probably, most of them truly repented. Are they saved? We will find out at the Great White Throne. That is for God to decide and has nothing to do with us.

That's would be like Peter asking, “Lord, you mean all of those millions of people that didn't keep the Law, and knew nothing about the Law, are lost?

Again, that's for God to decide. However, most Americans today can know the Truth if they want Truth and will stand before God without excuse.

Thanks for answering and saying you believed they truly repented. That's better than most here who sidestep my actual question.

I have another question now. In acts 2:38:-39 god promised the Holy Ghost to all those who repent and are baptized. Did god break his promise since they never received the Holy Ghost as evidenced by their lack of tongues? Or did they receive the Holy Ghost without speaking in tongues?

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Do you believe that everyone now dead who repented and was baptized and who never spoke in tongues actually never truly repented?

What would their speaking in tongues [or not] have to do with the validity of their repentance?

[MarieA27]

Originally Posted by Luke

So are you saying that if a person lives a righteous life by the standards of thier own understanding that person can go to heaven without ever having been saved through faith in Jesus?

You have to re-word that, as I don't want to answer without fully understanding your question.

[houston]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

What would their speaking in tongues [or not] have to do with the validity of their repentance?

implicit that lack of tongues is due to false repentance

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

Wouldn't it be better then not to show people Jesus name baptism since they might reject it on grounds of obeying Jesus as per Matt 28:19?

God wants us to come to the full knowledge of the truth, for the truth set us free.

Our duty is to show the truth we have received, we are not responsible for their rejection of the truth.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Thanks for answering and saying you believed they truly repented. That's better than most here who sidestep my actual question.

I have another question now. In acts 2:38:-39 god promised the Holy Ghost to all those who repent and are baptized. Did god break his promise since they never received the Holy Ghost as evidenced by their lack of tongues? Or did they receive the Holy Ghost without speaking in tongues?

You are just assuming that they did not speak in tongues.
arguments from silence get you nothing.

[houston]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

You are just assuming that they did not speak in tongues. arguments from silence get you nothing.

you are assuming that they did speak in tongues. arguments from silence get you nothing.