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Old 12-07-2013, 07:35 AM
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Re: John Macarthur: Pentecostals Are Lost!

No folks, JM is not a friend to any Spirit filled individual. He speaks clearly against the continuation of the gifts in operation in the Church today. He is openly hateful towards anything of that such. Do not think he is accepting to some Spirit filled, as this past conference shows, he is not at all tolerant of any continuationist believer.
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:42 AM
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No folks, JM is not a friend to any Spirit filled individual. He speaks clearly against the continuation of the gifts in operation in the Church today. He is openly hateful towards anything of that such. Do not think he is accepting to some Spirit filled, as this past conference shows, he is not at all tolerant of any continuationist believer.
Agreed. But nor does he think all of them are lost. He's right that many of the more kooky Charismatics are not preaching the true gospel. They are preaching a counterfeit (Health and wealth, God has a wonderful plan for your life) gospel. In those churches, the majority of their "conversions" are false with no real repentance.
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Old 12-07-2013, 09:14 AM
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I'm pretty sure the report was that he paints with a monolithic brush.
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Old 12-07-2013, 09:44 AM
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Re: John Macarthur: Pentecostals Are Lost!

He rightly identifies a complete lack of Gospel preaching within the Charismatic/Pentecostal movement. That lack is most obvious in the Oneness Pentecostal movement.

Jesus is not preached, steps are preached. It's all about visible response rather than inward change.
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The Oneness Pentecostal gospel begins and ends with Acts 2:38. To them, all other scripture is of secondary importance.

Faith is an afterthought.
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You're mean.
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Re: John Macarthur: Pentecostals Are Lost!

JM and his irk are enemies of the Gospel, he hasn't even obeyed the Gospel, much less preach/teach the Gospel, why should anything he says concern a Pentecostal?

Php 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.
Php 3:18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
Php 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

Other than that, he's probably a nice guy.
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Old 12-07-2013, 01:56 PM
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JM and his irk are enemies of the Gospel, he hasn't even obeyed the Gospel, much less preach/teach the Gospel, why should anything he says concern a Pentecostal? Php 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample. Php 3:18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: Php 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.) Other than that, he's probably a nice guy.
would you care to expound on the context of the scriptures that you posted? Thanks.
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