Pastor Jim Cymbala said THIS?? WOW!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Pastor Jim Cymbala , pastor of the Brooklyn Tabernacle, said this in a recent blog....




WOW!! I cannot believe he said this!! He gets it!!

You know...Im not sure he does...maybe

But I am inclined that they don't tremble because they hear a word. They tremble at the faith and authority of those that USE the name..not as a magic word but in authority.

It's God's power they fear. It's the church who have been given that power and the authority to use it, in Jesus name.

I see a lot of this among us OPs where we treat the name as a magic word instead of understand what that name means to the church and who that name represented (The savior, who by his death not only brought us salvation but released power and authority to the church)

Im not sure of what JC meant as I would need to see more context.

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

You know...Im not sure he does...maybe

But I am inclined that they don't tremble because they hear a word. They tremble at the faith and authority of those that USE the name..not as a magic word but in authority.

It's God's power they fear. It's the church who have been given that power and the authority to use it, in Jesus name.

I see a lot of this among us OPs where we treat the name as a magic word instead of understand what that name means to the church and who that name represented (The savior, who by his death not only brought us salvation but released power and authority to the church)
Im not sure of what JC meant as I would need to see more context.

I like that!

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

You know...Im not sure he does...maybe

But I am inclined that they don't tremble because they hear a word. They tremble at the faith and authority of those that USE the name..not as a magic word but in authority.

It's God's power they fear. It's the church who have been given that power and the authority to use it, in Jesus name.

I see a lot of this among us OPs where we treat the name as a magic word instead of understand what that name means to the church and who that name represented (The savior, who by his death not only brought us salvation but released power and authority to the church)

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That's why I object to teaching on Baptism in Jesus' that stresses almost solely the vocalization of the name instead of stressing submission to the authority of the One who bears that name.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I just wish I could have met the late Pastor David Wilkerson of Times Square Church in NYC before he passed. I enjoy listening to Pastor Cymbala's and Pastor David Wilkerson's sermons.

I saw Wilkerson in person on many occasions, but never even got to shake his hand. Check out my audios sermons on YouTube of Wilkerson when he preached at the JSBC chapel services 1984-88.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by CC1

I am shocked that you are shocked that any Christian preacher would say this. You must really have a warped view of preachers outside of your little circle if you think what he said is unusual or strange.

Have you not read the debates I've had on here with Apostolic extremists? I just happened to like Pastor Jim's comment and thought it really meant something coming from a Trinitarian. If anything I was demonstrating (contrary to what guys like Lee Stoneking think) that the name of Jesus has the same power whether or not its invoked by a Trinitarian or Oneness believer.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by endtimer

My thoughts exactly. Originalist, come out from among them and" get it " that you aren't the only one with understanding.

Uh, I will tell you what I just told another poster on this thread who knee jerk jumped to the same wrong conclusion about me that you just did,,,

Have you not read the debates I've had on here with Apostolic extremists? I just happened to like Pastor Jim's comment and thought it really meant something coming from a Trinitarian. If anything I was demonstrating (contrary to what guys like Lee Stoneking think) that the name of Jesus has the same power whether or not its invoked by a Trinitarian or Oneness believer.

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by Originalist

That's why I object to teaching on Baptism in Jesus' that stresses almost solely the vocalization of the name instead of stressing submission to the authority of the One who bears that name.

I thought that's what the doctrine of repentance did.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

I thought that's what the doctrine of repentance did.

I think repentance is something that is not focused on nearly enough in both old time Oneness Pentecostal circles and the neo Pentecostal circles.

Same thing with the fruit of the spirit.

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by CC1

I think repentance is something that is not focused on nearly enough in both old time Oneness Pentecostal circles and the neo Pentecostal circles.

Same thing with the fruit of the spirit.

Amen. Real repentance is not only asking for forgiveness of our sins, but it will be about submitting our will to the will of God. Or as Originalist said "submission to the authority of the One who bears that name".

[endtimer]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Uh, I will tell you what I just told another poster on this thread who knee jerk jumped to the same wrong conclusion about me that you just did,,, Have you not read the debates I've had on here with Apostolic extremists? I just happened to like Pastor Jim's comment and thought it really meant something coming from a Trinitarian. If anything I was demonstrating (contrary to what guys like Lee Stoneking think) that the name of Jesus has the same power whether or not its invoked by a Trinitarian or Oneness believer.

My comments were tongue in cheek... really. So, how do you feel about tattoos?