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07-26-2014, 03:00 PM
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Re: Preachers stealing sermons
We call yelling "anointing" when Pentecostals do it but when non-Pentecostals do it suddenly it's not anointing
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07-26-2014, 03:20 PM
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Re: Preachers stealing sermons
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Like one fella was given to say about "stealing sermons".............. "I've been stealing from Paul and Peter for years". 
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Funny.
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07-26-2014, 05:27 PM
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Re: Preachers stealing sermons
Anyone that thinks a sermon he preached ,makes him the only person in the world who preached it is pretty egotistical imo .Sermons are not intellectual property imo ,I have heard some that were preached 20 years ago and are still being preached almost verbatim it seems.
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07-26-2014, 05:32 PM
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Re: Preachers stealing sermons
Actually, we are all "stealing" someone elses material, everyday. Think about it. We learn from others.....and teach their stuff if we agree. They got it from others' and so on...
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07-26-2014, 06:53 PM
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Re: Preachers stealing sermons
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Actually, we are all "stealing" someone elses material, everyday. Think about it. We learn from others.....and teach their stuff if we agree. They got it from others' and so on...
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07-26-2014, 07:20 PM
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Re: Preachers stealing sermons
Several years ago, a high profile minister in the district visited out church and preached a sermon he called "Four of a Kind Beats a Full House". The text was the four men who brought the paralytic to the packed house, deciding to un-roof the house in order to get to Jesus.
Funny and sad thing was, the pastor of the church at the time, had just a few weeks prior told us how he had heard an awesome sermon called "Four of a Kind Beats a Full House" and told us who the original preacher was.
The dignitary didn't know our church knew about the sermon and title, and so, preached it without giving credit to the source.
I felt embarrassed for the district official and let down at the same time.
I don't mind the borrowing of general ideas and concepts, especially because anything that is true comes from above, but preaching someone else's sermon, even to the point of using the same title, seems improper.
I remember reading Ike Terry's autobiography and in it, he talks about a sermon called "Let the Rose Unfold" and how it became a common sermon for so many others to preach.
While the topic and concept were good, the fact that it was mimicked and copied so many times bothered me.
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07-26-2014, 08:00 PM
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Re: Preachers stealing sermons
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How would you feel if you heard a minister preach a sermon and then later heard the exact sermon word for word by a well known speaker?
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I would say that minister is lazy.
Come on I have always written my own sermons from scratch, I never had to preach another's man sermon.
Yes it takes some time to write your own sermons, but at least the message is yours not what some other preacher thought.
if you can not write your own sermons, then why are you even in the ministry? you got not message of your own. you are just a parrot, preaching what others have preached, might as well play a tape recorder and save the trouble of reading it.
I have never once preached any other preacher's sermon, because it was not given by God to me, it was given to that preacher.
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07-26-2014, 08:55 PM
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Re: Preachers stealing sermons
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Originally Posted by votivesoul
Several years ago, a high profile minister in the district visited out church and preached a sermon he called "Four of a Kind Beats a Full House". The text was the four men who brought the paralytic to the packed house, deciding to un-roof the house in order to get to Jesus.
Funny and sad thing was, the pastor of the church at the time, had just a few weeks prior told us how he had heard an awesome sermon called "Four of a Kind Beats a Full House" and told us who the original preacher was.
The dignitary didn't know our church knew about the sermon and title, and so, preached it without giving credit to the source.
I felt embarrassed for the district official and let down at the same time.
I don't mind the borrowing of general ideas and concepts, especially because anything that is true comes from above, but preaching someone else's sermon, even to the point of using the same title, seems improper.
I remember reading Ike Terry's autobiography and in it, he talks about a sermon called "Let the Rose Unfold" and how it became a common sermon for so many others to preach.
While the topic and concept were good, the fact that it was mimicked and copied so many times bothered me.
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Hey, that guy stole my sermon!!!
LOL
J/K, never preached it but have heard it preached.
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07-26-2014, 09:08 PM
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Re: Preachers stealing sermons
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I would say that minister is lazy.
Come on I have always written my own sermons from scratch, I never had to preach another's man sermon.
Yes it takes some time to write your own sermons, but at least the message is yours not what some other preacher thought.
if you can not write your own sermons, then why are you even in the ministry? you got not message of your own. you are just a parrot, preaching what others have preached, might as well play a tape recorder and save the trouble of reading it.
I have never once preached any other preacher's sermon, because it was not given by God to me, it was given to that preacher. 
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What if god inspired you to preach another preachers sermon?
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07-26-2014, 09:27 PM
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Re: Preachers stealing sermons
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What if god inspired you to preach another preachers sermon?
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That's a good point.
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