End time Revival

[CC1]

If I recall correctly "End Time Revival" was a huge theme in the UPC when I was a kid. Seems like I recall it form the late 60's and through the 70's.

[kclee4jc]

Originally Posted by CC1

I wasn't aware that the five fold ministry was in need of being restored! I have never heard that opinion expressed before. Is that widely held or just the opinion of one preacher you heard?

Of course the rest of what you posted about, end time revival, I heard all of my life in the UPC.

I have heard several in the main stream talk about a restoration of five fold ministry. Heard it for the last 5 or 6 years. I really bought into it when I first heard it...but now I feel like its already in operation the way it needs to be.

[kclee4jc]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

God has been pouring out His Spirit since Acts 2

Revival is the product of a hungry people who are willing to sacrifice, pray, fast, get into the word and read the lost

Revival will never happen just because we believe it to be so. God may promise revival but the promise is contingent on our faith

The Holy Ghost was poured out at Pentecost. Does it need to happen again in order for revival to come? Do we already have everything available that we need to have revival or is God going to supercharge His Spirit and take us into a "new dimension" right before His return?

[kclee4jc]

Originally Posted by Aquila

End time revival will take place along side end time apostasy. I'm Post-Trib. I believe the greatest revival will come in the midst of great tribulation.

And the notion that we "need" to begin building bigger buildings is carnal logic. An inflow of devoted believers will put in motion efforts to meet the body's needs.

The Bible clearly indicates a great falling away. Not so much an "endtime revival". I am also post trib. However, even if I was pre trib I would not believe today's church was exempt from persecution. The servant is not greater than his master. And it is a fact...persecution produces either comprimise or consecration. Consecration produces revival.

[kclee4jc]

Originally Posted by CC1

If I recall correctly "End Time Revival" was a huge theme in the UPC when I was a kid. Seems like I recall it form the late 60's and through the 70's.

Seems to be re-surfacing in kind of a finatical way.

[crakjak]

God has already done all that is necessary to save the world. Problem is, the world (humans) don't know who they are, and religion keeps trying to re-enact what he has already done.
Jesus died for all humanity "before the foundation of the world" before Adam declared his independence it was already "finished", the cure before the disease, that's how God works.
Now is the time to "preach the Good News" that all are already reconciled to God, believe it embrace it and enter into it!!
Even your faith adds nothing to the finished work, it is done, it only needs you to enter into it.
Don't be a homeless bum, with a 50 million dollar inheritance languishing in the bank. Don't remain lost, just because you forgot your home address!!

[kclee4jc]

Originally Posted by crakjak

God has already done all that is necessary to save the world. Problem is, the world (humans) don't know who they are, and religion keeps trying to re-enact what he has already done.
Jesus died for all humanity "before the foundation of the world" before Adam declared his independence it was already "finished", the cure before the disease, that's how God works.
Now is the time to "preach the Good News" that all are already reconciled to God, believe it embrace it and enter into it!!
Even your faith adds nothing to the finished work, it is done, it only needs you to enter into it.
Don't be a homeless bum, with a 50 million dollar inheritance languishing in the bank. Don't remain lost, just because you forgot your home address!!

hogwash

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by crakjak

God has already done all that is necessary to save the world. Problem is, the world (humans) don't know who they are, and religion keeps trying to re-enact what he has already done.
Jesus died for all humanity "before the foundation of the world" before Adam declared his independence it was already "finished", the cure before the disease, that's how God works.
Now is the time to "preach the Good News" that all are already reconciled to God, believe it embrace it and enter into it!!
Even your faith adds nothing to the finished work, it is done, it only needs you to enter into it.
Don't be a homeless bum, with a 50 million dollar inheritance languishing in the bank. Don't remain lost, just because you forgot your home address!!

CJ that still doesn't make a bit of sense. Everyone is saved, but they just don't know they are saved. Tell them that they all won running shoes but they don't have any feet to put in those running shoes? CJ so Charlie Mason is saved? But he just doesn't know it? It would make sense if you scrapped where Jesus said you will know the tree by its fruit. If all humanity is saved but just don't know they are saved then they aren't showing the fruit of their salvation. When they Judeans were free to leave Babylon by Cyrus, most didn't leave, while this didn't change them being Judeans it still separated them from what God had for them to return to the promise land.

Acts 2:38 asked the people to repent, Acts 10:48 Peter ordered those who received the Holy Ghost (they didn't have prior to his visit ) commanding them to be baptized in Jesus name. If what you believe is true then Peter, Paul, and the apostles, would of never baptized, laid hands on, or ordered anyone to do anything, they would of just told everyone that they are saved so everyone be happy.

CJ that doesn't even smell right.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

hogwash

And you can find it all in these books....

[kclee4jc]

universalism