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08-31-2014, 02:04 PM
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Lifestyle, sweetie. He wants to be with a man and be saved.
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08-31-2014, 02:09 PM
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Re: Homosexuality question
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Originally Posted by houston
Lifestyle, sweetie. He wants to be with a man and be saved.
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To know God is to come to desire what He desires. It's difficult to have a relationship without knowing Him. The more time you spend with Him, the more what you want will line up with His will.
Basically, you can't love God with the totality of everything you are if you're unwilling to surrender even one area of your life to Him and His guidance, direction and parameters. 95%=/=100%. God's love for him won't change, it's not less and will never be more, but he can only serve to the depth that he is willing to surrender.
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God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
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08-31-2014, 03:08 PM
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Re: Homosexuality question
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Originally Posted by nahkoe
Well, why can't he remain gay and serve God? Why can't he praise the Lord and be gay? Do you mean lifestyle or condition of being? Lifestyle or "why can't he love a man"? Because God says it's not ok. Condition of being? God can change that, but that doesn't mean He will....and I don't believe a person is precluded from serving God just because of a condition of being. If you go to bed at night asking God to take it away...and wake up with nothing changed, you can still praise God because God's worth hasn't decreased because of your present condition. If he can't praise God because he's gay, then no one can praise God and that's not the message in the Bible.
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He can praise God all he wants. If he does not OBEY God he will be cast into Hellfire.
This is the teaching of the Holy Spirit. He opposes sin. Sin is defined by whatever he says sin is.
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08-31-2014, 03:20 PM
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Mama to four little angels.
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Re: Homosexuality question
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
He can praise God all he wants. If he does not OBEY God he will be cast into Hellfire.
This is the teaching of the Holy Spirit. He opposes sin. Sin is defined by whatever he says sin is.
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Ok..? Show me where I said otherwise.
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You become free from who you have become, by becoming who you were meant to be. ~Mark from another forum I post on
God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
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08-31-2014, 03:49 PM
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Re: Homosexuality question
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Originally Posted by houston
He's been looking for a church. He's been praying. He knows that it is wrong. He wants to know why? He has always been gay. Everyone in his life knows he's gay. He wants to know why he can't remain gay and serve God, why he can't praise The Lord and be gay? He asked why he can't love a man.
He hasn't disagreed that it's wrong. He wants to know why it's wrong.
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Why can't we be fornicators and be saved?
Ultimately, we must decide who defines morality: the individual, society or God. If God, then we must accept what and how he has communicated his will to us- the Bible. He does not always provide an answer for "why?", but we can know from the totality of the Bible's message that God is love and his motivation towards us is love.
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08-31-2014, 03:54 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Homosexuality question
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Originally Posted by houston
He's been looking for a church. He's been praying. He knows that it is wrong. He wants to know why? He has always been gay. Everyone in his life knows he's gay. He wants to know why he can't remain gay and serve God, why he can't praise The Lord and be gay? He asked why he can't love a man.
He hasn't disagreed that it's wrong. He wants to know why it's wrong.
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BTW, for the record, I don't believe anyone has always been gay. Memory is Tricky.
When I was a child I did not know I was heterosexual. They were just girls to me.
I believe for the most part how we are raised and early life events play a huge role in whether or not we become "gay"
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-31-2014, 03:55 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Homosexuality question
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Originally Posted by nahkoe
Well, why can't he remain gay and serve God? Why can't he praise the Lord and be gay? Do you mean lifestyle or condition of being? Lifestyle or "why can't he love a man"? Because God says it's not ok. Condition of being? God can change that, but that doesn't mean He will....and I don't believe a person is precluded from serving God just because of a condition of being. If you go to bed at night asking God to take it away...and wake up with nothing changed, you can still praise God because God's worth hasn't decreased because of your present condition. If he can't praise God because he's gay, then no one can praise God and that's not the message in the Bible.
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I've known men that have. I knew one guy that gave up his feelings for God. I don't know that he ever lost the feelings 100%.
Feelings are often just suppressed, not gone
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-31-2014, 03:58 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Homosexuality question
So anyways...as I said the Reason is that it goes contrary to God's order of Creation for man.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-31-2014, 04:17 PM
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Re: Homosexuality question
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
BTW, for the record, I don't believe anyone has always been gay. Memory is Tricky.
When I was a child I did not know I was heterosexual. They were just girls to me.
I believe for the most part how we are raised and early life events play a huge role in whether or not we become "gay"
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There you go 
Hits the nail!
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08-31-2014, 04:20 PM
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Re: Homosexuality question
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Originally Posted by AR Pastor
YOu don't need any other reason than the bible says so.
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Agreed.
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