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Old 01-31-2015, 09:49 PM
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Re: Stan Mitchell's Church Gay Inclusive?

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It's a spirit from hell that he has INVITED into his life and he will pay in this life.
Sad, really sad, lust drives the weak minded individual into situations he can never come back from. Behind the pulpit, betraying the wife, and children. No conscience, no care. Then when I bring up that these individuals will sleep with man, woman, and children, everyone goes "nooooo."

There was a time you all would of said that there was no way a Homosexual Church would be the norm, let alone a Pentecostal one (if you can even call it that). Now look where we are. So, don't be surprised if Mr Stan goes off with boyfriend.

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I do not understand how there can be a "gay pentecostal church".

Unless "pentecostal" has come to mean merely catharsis, music, and volume instead of salvation, deliverance, and holiness... oh wait...
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Old 02-01-2015, 12:28 AM
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Re: Stan Mitchell's Church Gay Inclusive?

Over compensating for latent homosexual feelings?

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Old 02-01-2015, 05:15 AM
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Re: Stan Mitchell's Church Gay Inclusive?

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I do not understand how there can be a "gay pentecostal church".

Unless "pentecostal" has come to mean merely catharsis, music, and volume instead of salvation, deliverance, and holiness... oh wait...
The way I've often heard it described, is that Pentecostal describes our worship, Apostolic describes our teachings.

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It's a spirit from hell that he has INVITED into his life and he will pay in this life.
While I'm not familiar with this Stan Mitchell, he'll not only pay in this life, but also in the next. For if he leads people into unrighteousness, he'll have to answer to God for their souls being lost.
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Old 02-01-2015, 12:17 PM
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I do not understand how there can be a "gay pentecostal church".

Unless "pentecostal" has come to mean merely catharsis, music, and volume instead of salvation, deliverance, and holiness... oh wait...
If you do a google search I am sure you can find the "bible study" that some of the gay pentecostal churches use to justify it. It is put out I think by a gay pentecostal organization of churches that is made up of a lot of ex UPC people. I can't remember the name of it but "affirming" is in the name of the org. There are pastors / churches in Indiana, Florida, etc. A few years ago when there was a thread or more on here about the subject I looked some of the churches websites up.

One of the pastors told his story about how he had been a UPC evangelist or pastor and had been married twice before coming out of the closet. Told the "sweet" love story of how he met his current "partner". Which brings up a point. I have wondered how these gay pastors justified not being married to their partner (at least before so many states legalized gay marriage). I am assuming they get around it by having a "wedding" ceremony that is not recognized by the state.
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I do not understand how there can be a "gay pentecostal church".

Unless "pentecostal" has come to mean merely catharsis, music, and volume instead of salvation, deliverance, and holiness... oh wait...
If you do a google search I am sure you can find the "bible study" that some of the gay pentecostal churches use to justify it. It is put out I think by a gay pentecostal organization of churches that is made up of a lot of ex UPC people. I can't remember the name of it but "affirming" is in the name of the org. There are pastors / churches in Indiana, Florida, etc. A few years ago when there was a thread or more on here about the subject I looked some of the churches websites up.

One of the pastors told his story about how he had been a UPC evangelist or pastor and had been married twice before coming out of the closet. Told the "sweet" love story of how he met his current "partner". Which brings up a point. I have wondered how these gay pastors justified not being married to their partner (at least before so many states legalized gay marriage). I am assuming they get around it by having a "wedding" ceremony that is not recognized by the state.
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Re: Stan Mitchell's Church Gay Inclusive?

I was shocked to see some of my bible studies were on a gay pentecostal website. I immediately told them to remove them ASAP.
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Re: Stan Mitchell's Church Gay Inclusive?

You know...I wonder if we stress tongues too much. Im convinced not everyone has really spoken in tongues but faked it.

I say that because of what I see happening in alters where I am convinced "seekers" are being pressed to just "trip over the Ls" in Halleluyah

We had an evangelist at my church once and he asked me about a brother there, if he had the Spirit. I told him that I did not know for sure. He used to go to a Charismatic church that I know of where the Pastor would invite people once a month to come to the front and speak in tongues. He would instruct them how to speak in tongues...literally

So this same man I would watch with seekers walk up and go "Halllalalalala..Say it! Halalalalala. Say it" and I told that to the evangelist and his words shocked me..He said "Well it does not matter how they get it as long as they get it"

Many of these "gay pentecostals" say they have the gifts...maybe because they "speak in tongues" they believe everything is ok between them and God?
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First the homo sympathizers in the pulpit, then the homos in the pulpit! What next? Bestiality?
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Churches need to be more accepting of gay people. I'm appalled at the hatred expressed in this threat towards homosexuals. They are souls in need of a savior, too.
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