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02-25-2015, 05:03 PM
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Re: Standards
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Originally Posted by commonsense
 And yes, there is the problem.
Cliff notes_______ I'm 3rd gen Apostolic Oneness and until 1970's was never under extra-Biblical standards. Since then I've seen many variations. And often the attitude-- standards are heaven or hell.
Downside_____________large number of relatives and saints I know personally, that would Never again go to a UPC church. While I don't think the UPC saves us they had a blessed past.
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Right - commenting on the bolded - around the early 1970s is when all the "holiness standards" became the hot button... I have family who have been in Pentecost for many years, and before the 1970s, the dress code wasn't an issue. It became an issue for everyone during that time period.
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02-25-2015, 05:23 PM
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Re: Standards
OF COURSE the dress code came into play in the 70s!!!  Good grief, do any of you remember how awful and cheesy people dressed in the 70s???
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02-25-2015, 06:18 PM
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Re: Standards
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Originally Posted by Esaias
OF COURSE the dress code came into play in the 70s!!!  Good grief, do any of you remember how awful and cheesy people dressed in the 70s???

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Interesting that you've admitted that... most go back to Duet. 22:5 to find where standards started, lol!
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02-25-2015, 06:52 PM
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Re: Standards
I believe ALL of this has been discussed and discussed and debated and debated a 1001 times along with water baptism and the Godhead. Reminds me of the song, Here we go around the mulberry bush, the mulberry bush, the mulbery bush.
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02-25-2015, 07:28 PM
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Re: Standards
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Originally Posted by Abiding Now
standard
noun stanˇdard \ˈstan-dərd\
: a level of quality, achievement, etc., that is considered acceptable or desirable
standards : ideas about morally correct and acceptable behavior
: something that is very good and that is used to make judgments about the quality of other things
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/standard
1. Who sets the standards in a church?
2. Can "extra-Biblical" standards be required of church members
3. Is compliance to mandatory standards fair?
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1. God
2. Depends on the intent, but yes.
3. If you want to be in leadership in your local church, then you'll follow the rules, dress code, etc.
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02-25-2015, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LOVE JESUS
I believe ALL of this has been discussed and discussed and debated and debated a 1001 times along with water baptism and the Godhead. Reminds me of the song, Here we go around the mulberry bush, the mulberry bush, the mulbery bush.
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So I've heard this or that has been discussed 1,001 times. But as long as the discussions are still beneficial then why not?
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02-25-2015, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by whoiskaiser77
1. God
2. Depends on the intent, but yes.
3. If you want to be in leadership in your local church, then you'll follow the rules, dress code, etc.
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Too bad many churches use "standards" to qualify/disqualify people from ministry rather than the requirements of 1 Timothy chapter 3.
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"Resolved: That all men should live to the glory of God. Resolved, secondly: That whether or not anyone else does, I will." ~Jonathan Edwards
"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
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02-25-2015, 07:34 PM
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Re: Standards
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
So I've heard this or that has been discussed 1,001 times. But as long as the discussions are still beneficial then why not?
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Some people don't like hearing the truth.
Holiness is right.
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02-25-2015, 07:35 PM
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Re: Standards
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
Too bad many churches use "standards" to qualify/disqualify people from ministry rather than the requirements of 1 Timothy chapter 3.
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If you don't have the heart to follow, you won't have the heart to lead.
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02-25-2015, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by whoiskaiser77
Some people don't like hearing the truth.
Holiness is right.
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Who said it wasn't?
Hebrews 12:14 NLT
Work at living in peace with everyone, and work at living a holy life, for those who are not holy will not see the Lord.
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"Resolved: That all men should live to the glory of God. Resolved, secondly: That whether or not anyone else does, I will." ~Jonathan Edwards
"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
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