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03-20-2015, 12:55 PM
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Re: I need a portable baptistry
 Dixie cup
Yeah, that's not going to work.
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03-20-2015, 07:31 AM
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Re: I need a portable baptistry
I don't believe it's a salvific issue. However, here is my understanding...
907 // baptizw // baptizo // bap-tid'-zo //
from a derivative of 911 ; TDNT - 1:529,92; verb
AV - baptize (76), wash 2, baptist 1, baptized + 2258 1; 80
1) to dip repeatedly, to immerse, to submerge (of vessels sunk)
2) to cleanse by dipping or submerging, to wash, to make clean with water, to wash one's self, bathe
3) to overwhelm In Hebrews 6:1-2 we read...
Hebrews 6:1-2 (ESV)
6 Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2 and of instruction about washings, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment.
In Hebrews 6:1-2, the writer of Hebrews refers to the ceremonial "washings" of the OT that included pouring and sprinkling (waters of consecration). As it pertains to the Tabernacle and the Temple, even the poured cleansings from the brazen laver are a type and shadow of water baptism. The Greek word used here in Hebrews is "baptismos", in the KJV it is even translated "baptisms".
A washing... rather it is done through immersion, pouring, or sprinkling is a "baptism".
Even God Himself "pours out" the baptism of the Holy Spirit:
Acts 2:17 (ESV)
“‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams;" But I admit, I'm a radical. I'll baptize you using a Dixie cup if it is all I can find. lol
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03-20-2015, 07:39 AM
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Re: I need a portable baptistry
Well, just keep in mind what happened in the 4th century bro.
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03-20-2015, 07:41 AM
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Re: I need a portable baptistry
You may end up the next protestant pope!...LOL
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03-20-2015, 07:43 AM
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Re: I need a portable baptistry
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You may end up the next protestant pope!...LOL
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Nah, I wouldn't like being a Pope.
I'd be happy just being the first guy to baptize a space alien... that I might disciple him to reach his home planet for Jesus. He can be a Pope there!
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03-20-2015, 07:58 AM
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Re: I need a portable baptistry
LOL
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03-20-2015, 08:31 AM
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Re: I need a portable baptistry
Sorry, baptizo means to immerse. It does not mean "to wash however you get it done".
Baptism is a fullbody .ikvah and infusion (pouring) was a post apostolic development.
I don't know ANY apostolic who accepts pouring or sprinkling as baptism.
Don't know any baptists who pour or sprinkle either, for that matter.
Baptism is for the remission of sins. That guy getting water poured on his head is not being baptised.
I would say I'm shocked but pretty much nothing shocks me nowadays.
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03-20-2015, 11:51 AM
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Re: I need a portable baptistry
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Sorry, baptizo means to immerse. It does not mean "to wash however you get it done".
Baptism is a fullbody .ikvah and infusion (pouring) was a post apostolic development.
I don't know ANY apostolic who accepts pouring or sprinkling as baptism.
Don't know any baptists who pour or sprinkle either, for that matter.
Baptism is for the remission of sins. That guy getting water poured on his head is not being baptised.
I would say I'm shocked but pretty much nothing shocks me nowadays.
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The pouring and sprinkling of water is found throughout the OT bro. The waters of consecration were sprinkled on the priests and others. The washings of their day (translated "baptisms") also involved the brazen laver and the pouring of water over the priesthood. Waters of purification were a part of ceremonial washings (translated "baptisms") that typically involved a pitcher and a basin...not a trough. That's a FACT you cannot deny. In addition, God Himself is said to "pour" out His Spirit with regards to the baptism of the Holy Ghost, and this is likened to being "sprinkled with clean water" in the prophets.
You've only bought into one definition of "baptism". And that's cool. Because it is a valid definition and immersion, in my opinion, should be standard practice. However, there are other definitions that allow for greater and more expansive meaning with regards to baptism and the "washing" away of sin. if there isn't enough water to immerse a person and you don't have the guts to "wash" (baptize) them by pouring what you do have on them... that's entirely up to you.
Like I said, I'm a radical. I'll baptize you with a Dixie cup if it's all I have and you want to be baptized. Judge me if you like. lol
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03-24-2015, 12:56 AM
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Re: I need a portable baptistry
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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03-24-2015, 12:59 AM
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Re: I need a portable baptistry
You can also use the back of a truck, lined with plastic
__________________
Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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