Any UPC Ultra Cons Still Around

[aegsm76]

I have noticed that many of the the "moderate" UPC churches have actually moved more conservative since the departure of many of the "ultra" cons.
Sort of strange...

[returnman]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

I have noticed that many of the the "moderate" UPC churches have actually moved more conservative since the departure of many of the "ultra" cons.
Sort of strange...

Wendell Myers used to say "a lot of them preach it but I enforce it".

You can tell that stuck with me.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

I have noticed that many of the the "moderate" UPC churches have actually moved more conservative since the departure of many of the "ultra" cons.
Sort of strange...

They must not of heard the news in Florida?

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by returnman

Wendell Myers used to say "a lot of them preach it but I enforce it".

You can tell that stuck with me.

Now that is a name I haven't heard in a while. Wendall Myers was epitome of ultra conservative in our state. To the point he would not hardly fellowship with the rest of us sinners. I always had a hard time respecting the man, on the other hand my first position as assistant pastor under Francis Mason, who held as strong of a position on standards, also kept an open heart and mind to if his position was wrong he would change after much prayer and study.

Seems to me the Ultra Conservatives pulled out and became an island to themselves and you don't hear much about them anymore.

[aegsm76]

GD - I run in both UPC and WPF "circles" and most of the WPF seems to be growing faster than the average UPC church. Also, seem to see more WPF new church plants than UPC (at least proportionally).
Of course I do not have as much insight with the "lib" side of the GIB or UPC, so my perception may be skewed.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

I have noticed that many of the the "moderate" UPC churches have actually moved more conservative since the departure of many of the "ultra" cons.
Sort of strange...

I don't think that is the case at all. What was deemed moderate was only seen that way because the ultra con. were so ultra. At least in my state I have not seen much change one way or the other in the teaching of moderate UPC churches. I was raised in what was considered the most moderate, middle of the road churches in our state. And though I have been out of UPC for 10 years my parents are still members of that same church, and it has not changed at all.

Ah well just my opinion. Carry on.

[aegsm76]

GD - don't be so defensive! I appreciate the insight.
I will say that there are some churches that do not associate with the WPF, because they are not conservative enough, either.

[Steve Epley]

There a several Independent congregations in the NW and some AMF congregations. Most were UPC at one time.

[returnman]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

There a several Independent congregations in the NW and some AMF congregations. Most were UPC at one time.

Washington is probably one of the most fragmented disjointed states in oneness circles. Even the cons can't agree enough to unify. Churches with 30-60 members spend more time at rah rah meetings for their own cause rather then getting to know the people in their communities.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by returnman

Wendell Myers used to say "a lot of them preach it but I enforce it".

You can tell that stuck with me.

Sol he was "God's enforcer'? Sadly I think that is the perspective of too many Pentecostal preachers. Once again your statement validates my thesis that a lot of Pentecostal preachers model and think of themselves more like Old Testament Judges and Prophets than Jesus' ministry.