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02-05-2016, 09:17 AM
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Re: 1945 merger PCI files
It is not easy to determine the details of what Morse taught. Speaking if which, I better get back to the research !! 
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02-06-2016, 07:52 AM
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Loren Adkins
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Re: 1945 merger PCI files
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Those I mentioned did not believe the new birth message but saved at repentance. Thus it made the transition easier.
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My understanding is that, that was the point of contention between the two groups. But because they both taught baptism in Jesus name, and one God, they worded the original constitution in such a way that they could both fellowship as one group.
Just checked one of my books to see where I got the idea of members of both groups keeping their original charters but will have to check my other two books to see where I got the idea.
Just as a side note, I believe we are saved at repentance, and that constitutes the new birth.
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02-06-2016, 08:18 PM
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Re: 1945 merger PCI files
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I now have the charter and bylaws, or constitution of the PCI.
Hazelwood has no PCI documents in their archive.
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This really surprises me. I thought HQ had put forth an effort to archive Oneness Pentecostal history and you would think the records of one of the two groups that joined together to form the UPC would be the first thing they would make sure they had.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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02-07-2016, 12:32 PM
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Re: 1945 merger PCI files
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This really surprises me. I thought HQ had put forth an effort to archive Oneness Pentecostal history and you would think the records of one of the two groups that joined together to form the UPC would be the first thing they would make sure they had.
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In fairness I think history wasn't as important to them as to us. They were making history we are reading it?
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02-08-2016, 01:12 PM
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Re: 1945 merger PCI files
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In fairness I think history wasn't as important to them as to us. They were making history we are reading it?
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That is a good, fair point.
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02-08-2016, 03:09 PM
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Re: 1945 merger PCI files
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In fairness I think history wasn't as important to them as to us. They were making history we are reading it?
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Kind of like folks our age were young and a 1968 Camaro was just an old used car when they sold it and now is a classic? LOL
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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02-09-2016, 08:26 AM
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Loren Adkins
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Re: 1945 merger PCI files
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I do know some did not join never heard they renewed their charter but it could have happened? It is interesting around 51 the first split were former PCI men who formed the IMA? Vanhoose, Kidson, Cootes.
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You may be right, and that may be what I read, and assumed the PCI renewed their charter.
I did find a small note in United We Stand that spoke of a small group of the PAJC that were able to renew the old charter.
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02-09-2016, 08:31 AM
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Re: 1945 merger PCI files
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You may be right, and that may be what I read, and assumed the PCI renewed their charter.
I did find a small note in United We Stand that spoke of a small group of the PAJC that were able to renew the old charter.
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The PAJC yet exist today a very small group.
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02-25-2016, 06:57 PM
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Re: 1945 merger PCI files
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It is not easy to determine the details of what Morse taught. Speaking if which, I better get back to the research !! |
There's a guy with a FB site called Apostolic Archives, Br. Garrett I believe. His roots are PAW.
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02-25-2016, 09:39 PM
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Re: 1945 merger PCI files
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There's a guy with a FB site called Apostolic Archives, Br. Garrett I believe. His roots are PAW.
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Actually his roots are AMF his Father helped form the AMF although Gary spent most of his latter years around the PAW.
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