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06-18-2007, 09:02 AM
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Be mad all you want ... the bible says we must believe and confess he is the Son of God .... anything else IMO is a royal waste of energy ....
I want to know HIM IN HIS POWER, FELLOWSHIP OF HIS SUFFERING AND RESURRECTION ... not to argue nuances of his infinite nature.
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06-18-2007, 09:03 AM
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Trins say the SECOND PERSON of God came in the flesh. This is error.
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06-18-2007, 09:04 AM
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God did ... both believe this also ....
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Though they say the second person of the Trinity is fully God (as in nature), but the second person of the Trinity is not 100% of God. If the Trinitarian God was truly incarnate, then all three persons would have become man, making for very interesting conversation. 
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06-18-2007, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Be mad all you want ... the bible says we must believe and confess he is the Son of God .... anything else IMO is a royal waste of energy ....
I want to know HIM IN HIS POWER, FELLOWSHIP OF HIS SUFFERING AND RESURRECTION ... not to argue nuances of his infinite nature.
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I want to worship him in Spirit and in Truth. 
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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06-18-2007, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
Though they say the second person of the Trinity is fully God (as in nature), but the second person of the Trinity is not 100% of God. If the Trinitarian God was truly incarnate, then all three persons would have become man, making for very interesting conversation. |
Can't speak for other oneness here, but I for one certainly believe God existed outside and apart from (or in addition to) the incarnation.
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06-18-2007, 09:10 AM
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Can't speak for other oneness here, but I for one certainly believe God existed outside and apart from (or in addition to) the incarnation.
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I agree with you.
But if the Trinitarian God is composed of three persons, then only one person was incarnate. Not all three persons were incarnate. That is what I was getting at.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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06-18-2007, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
I agree with you.
But if the Trinitarian God is composed of three persons, then only one person was incarnate. Not all three persons were incarnate. That is what I was getting at.
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The Trinitarians choose to explain God and the distinctions between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as persons. While Oneness recognizes the same distinctions they do not use the same language. I am not comfortable with "persons".
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06-18-2007, 10:45 AM
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The Trinitarians choose to explain God and the distinctions between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as persons. While Oneness recognizes the same distinctions they do not use the same language. I am not comfortable with "persons".
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I think distinctions arose when God took on flesh and blood.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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06-18-2007, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
I think distinctions arose when God took on flesh and blood.
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The sad thing is, none of you know the trinitarian doctrine on any real level. You know what others have told you. This is the biggest problem by and large. Fear and ostracization keep you from finding the truth on the matter.
I love the attempts at humor. Would you be so kind if other threw them in your direction.... Oneness would mean Jesus was talking to Himself in the garden
oneness would mean Jesus would have to say not my will be done by mine 
How about God the ventriliquist? God in heaven with using his "big voice" "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased" God now in His little voice "thank you Father, I have fulfilled all righteousness"
Crude? Yes, it is, but it demonstrates the coursness of which most unknowing oneness folks use in their attempts to demean a doctrine they know nothing about
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06-18-2007, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by H2H
The Trinitarians choose to explain God and the distinctions between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as persons. While Oneness recognizes the same distinctions they do not use the same language. I am not comfortable with "persons".
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this is a little closer - I commend your respect and honsety! Oneness uses "roles" Both groups use "aspects".
modalists use "modes", or "dispensations"... which early church fathers to this day describe as "heresy"
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