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Old 08-04-2017, 04:20 PM
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Re: Will Someone Explain-- I Will Ask Questions

Our family friends laugh in derision at the misconceptions of those who work in the performing arts arena.

The only thing everyone in Hollywood has in common is their zip code.
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JD - as someone who did all of the above, (except attending Prom), I believe I can speak from personal experience.
I played a lot of sports growing up. Baseball, Basketball, Football and Track.
I was good, so it was fun. Winning was fun.
There are some good things I learned from sports, such as teamwork, leadership and hard work (equals results).
However, when I got into HS that all changed.
Due to the negative influences sports had at that time, I almost lost my way and I still live with the scars from those times.
Now, I still love sports. I fight that fight every day. It has grown easier as I have become disgusted with every sport that has now officially endorsed unrighteousness and basically painted Bible-believing Christians as illiterate, uneducated bigots.
When I see my old baseball coach, he always tells me that I could have made it in MLB. And he knew what he was talking about. Three other boys from that neighborhood did make it. One of them killed himself after a stellar career. However, he could not shake the drug addiction the career brought. The others suffer from the usual multiple marriages and addiction issues. Another boy from the hood made it in the NFL. Now he is battling cancer, probably brought on by the roids he took.
One thing that I am very Godly proud of is that my two boys (who were athletically gifted, also) do not have the love for sports that I do. They love to play basketball, but to them, it is not life or death.
But, I did not let them play organized sports growing up.
It comes down to this question, regarding sports for me.

Have you ever seen someone who said playing sports helped their walk with God?

Nope.
That is the bottom line for me.

Now to other school activities.
Musicals, plays, band, etc... - I cannot speak to these as well as I did to Sports.
Maybe someone else can.
As to Prom.
I had enough sense to listen to my pastor on this, as least.
I never went.
But, I have friends who still have to deal with the issues that started at the after Prom parties.

What is there to fight about?

I played football for one year in HS, realized it wasn't for me. However, if I had been athletically gifted in other areas, I don't see why I would have to "fight" not using my natural abilities.

I have read the "time away from church and church functions" responses, but as a saved teenager with no other saved peers as friends, my parents just didn't allow me to miss church very often at all. I would have LOVED having a "youth group"!

The occasional concert, or dress rehearsal wasn't a problem for them or me because I didn't miss church usually. There were a few Sunday morning choral concerts I missed and one even affected my grade for that class for a grading quarter. There was one choral concert I didn't miss that was on a Sunday morning. My Dad was against it, but my Mom convinced him to let me go.

So if the teenager doesn't usually miss church services, and that teenager misses a few during school year due to being involved with positive pursuits, what's the problem?


Can all of the concerns you guys are bringing up be solved by just having a strong Christian home and family life?
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Our family friends laugh in derision at the misconceptions of those who work in the performing arts arena.

The only thing everyone in Hollywood has in common is their zip code.
LOL!
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Old 08-04-2017, 04:40 PM
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Re: Will Someone Explain-- I Will Ask Questions

Something I have noticed about myself is that I personalize many of the stuff I post and ask about here.

Maybe I should, maybe I shouldn't.

I do know of one Apostolic girl, several years younger than me, who got involved in drama for a couple years, went to an after party from after her final performance and she fell into sin.

But she didn't have to fall. I attended those same type of parties with my drama peers and I didn't engage in blatant sin.

What gives?

Someone falls and now there is a blanket rule for everyone else?

But what about those of us who didn't / don't fall?
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Actors should act. Painter should paint. Singers should sing. Writers should spill ink.

Shall we live our lives in the salt shaker or should we be shaken out ??
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Public school is sin. Problem solved.
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Actors should act. Painter should paint. Singers should sing. Writers should spill ink.

Shall we live our lives in the salt shaker or should we be shaken out ??
"All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not."

We are here for a purpose. It's not to run a pigskin across a field. It's not to hit a leather ball over a fence or throw one into a net. It's not to be an actor or try to emulate Hollywood.
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"All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not."

We are here for a purpose. It's not to run a pigskin across a field. It's not to hit a leather ball over a fence or throw one into a net. It's not to be an actor or try to emulate Hollywood.
But working a 9 to 5 in a steel mill is?

Is there or has there ever been a saved professional athlete? Is this impossible to exist?

How about an actor? There is one that immediately comes to mind, a Pentecostal actor-- is he not saved because he is an actor?
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I never much inquired into an official stance anyone else had on these things.

My thoughts are this:

Childhood is training for adulthood, period, end of story. Simon and Andrew, James and John, were likely all young men, peers of the Lord in terms of age, and certainly in terms of demographics and geography. These guys pulled seine nets that weighed hundreds of pounds when empty, possibly upwards of a ton, when full of fished, and they did so, through water.

These guys could have started their own rugby team and been the hardest hitting of any team to take the field, if the sport had existed back then.

But instead, they were all of them following in their father's footsteps, learning to sail and fish and repair nets and cast them from shore and from boat, and how to filet and barter, and judge weather, and defend themselves against bandits, and who knows what else.

And they were likely doing this from the time they were 10 or 12. They had no time for frivolity. They were learning to become adults, that time in life in which you spend the vast majority of your time in life.

I want my kids to have fun and enjoy life and learn certain skills and themes. But most of all, I want them to be successful, God-fearing, Christ obeying adults. And that takes a lot of work, and my wife and I don't have a lot of time to invest in doing much else but making sure we raise them right, so my daughter will be ready to marry when she decides to do so. And when I say ready, I don't mean head over heels in love ready to consummate that love. I mean, she knows how to cook, clean, do the laundry, sew, host guests, keep the home, mind children, change diapers, balance a checkbook, teach the Word by teaching her siblings, so she is prepared when she has her own children.

The same for our sons. They need to know how to work. They need to know how to build, and persevere and deal with harsh conditions and fix things around the house, how to go about spending money in a wise and Godly way, how to lead and have confidence and know true north so they can lead others to Jesus, how to love and be honest and be best friends, and lay down their lives for the Lord and for their families. How to study the Word and receive revelation and know the voice of their Master for themselves.

To quote unpopular Paul Washer:

If your dad is still paying your car insurance, you're a boy, not a man. If you're saving up for an XBOX instead of for a down payment on a house, you're still a child, not an adult.

I might add to that and say, "If you're out learning how to play football instead of learning how to write a resume, you're but a boy, not a man...and you're never going to become a man, no matter how old you are, until you learn to put away childish things."

I recommend everyone read Do Hard Things: A Teenage Rebellion Against Low Expectations by Alex and Brett Harris.

https://www.amazon.com/Do-Hard-Thing.../dp/1601428294

Find a way to better understand what the Lord wants from us as parents during the transitional phase between childhood and adulthood.

The word teenager didn't exist 200 years ago, brothers and sisters.
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Re: Will Someone Explain-- I Will Ask Questions

We never encouraged anyone to enter the movie business. The chances of "making it" are quite low.

But we did know people who did quite well in the business. Both actors/writers/performers and "extras" who did it part time as a hobby.

Aside from "fame" most of our friends lived quite normal lives. Their gift brought home the bacon. Instead of being a plumber or a mechanic, they were actors.

Every person has a path they should walk on. I am no critic of what path that may be.
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