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Old 01-26-2018, 04:44 AM
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I read verse 20 like this:

And, [the Father, from verse 19] having made peace through the blood of his cross [that is, through the blood of His Son's cross], by him [that is, by Jesus] to reconcile all things unto himself [this "himself" is a referent to the Father]; by him [a referent to Jesus], I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

So, because of what Jesus accomplished at Calvary, things both in the earth and in heaven, can be reconciled to God the Father. The cross is the nexus and locus of total, divine reconciliation. It makes all things possible.


And my question is what are those things "in heaven" that are being reconciled back to God?
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powers. principalities. really. no clue.
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powers. principalities. really. no clue.
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what is that for?
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I'll be back later with more but I'm thinking this has to do with, or is somehow connected to, the high priest making atonement for the altars, sanctuary, ark, etc. I always wondered why those things needed an atonement. They weren't sinful, they were holy!

But! Apparently they "carried the sins of the people" and needed purging. And they are patterns or models of certain "heavenly things" or realities.

It appears the Cross has literally cosmic and universal significance. (Universal as in impacting the entire created universe, earth AND heaven.)
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His NAME is Jesus!

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I would think that if God was not reconciled to us He wouldn't have provided Christ as the offering for
sin? I do not know of any verse saying that the cross reconciled God to us?
In any event, it speaks of
things in heaven being "reconciled to God".
The earthly Tabernacle was duplicated after the pattern of the Eternal Tabernacle:
which had to have been established “…before the foundation of the world.” That is,
on the 1st day of creation when God said, “…Let there be light.”

The earthly tabernacle, known as the tabernacle in the wilderness, needed to be
purified [temporarily] by blood: it was by the blood of the purest sacrifice available:
without blemish. This would satisfy the atonement of sin for a year.

To eternally establish the atonement for sin, the Eternal Tabernacle also has
to be consecrated by blood: “Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by
his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal
redemption for us.” So you see that OUR redemption was not actually fulfilled

at the cross, but the sacrifice had to be accepted at the Supreme Court of
Eternity! The proof that the sacrifice was acceptable is the resurrection of
the Lord Jesus: the proof that the blood was accepted, is that Jesus descended
and abode with the disciple, and that the Holy Spirit was imparted (and being
imparted still) to those who believe and obey the gospel that saves.

Reconciliation of Eternity and earth means Jesus has brought complete harmony
and conformity of both to the Father.

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