The 7 Mountain Mandate? Anybody heard of this?

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Maybe you need a new Bible? Perhaps you should get a King James instead of whatever it is you've been reading?

The Bible says we are to teach all nations to obey Christ, to preach the Gospel to every creature, and that all men are commanded by God to repent.

As for the seven mountains strategy, it's just a plan for impacting society, just like all missionary plans and revival strategies that people come up with.

And here's a thought: Somebody's going to influence society, might as well be Christians.

Of course I see that, but not in the way they are saying it. What they are saying is take over it by deception, by any means necessary.

I see what your saying, but this that I just read about was not that. It was mixed with that, but it wasn't only just that. Just look at what Rick Joyner said slowly:
"The kingdom of God will not be socialism, but a freedom even greater than anyone on earth knows at this time. [I like that part. However:] At first it may seem like totalitarianism, as the Lord will destroy the antichrist spirit now dominating the world with “the sword of His mouth” and will shatter many nations like pottery. However, fundamental to His rule is II Corinthians 3:17, “Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.” Instead of taking away liberties and becoming more domineering, the kingdom will move from a point of necessary control while people are learning truth, integrity, honor, and how to make decisions, to increasing liberty so that they can. . . .

The kingdom will start out necessarily authoritative in many ways, or in many areas, but will move toward increasing liberty–so do all true churches and movements that are advancing toward the kingdom"

Neither Jesus, nor I want any part in a society that is standing upon NAR leadership totally. Not going to happen. If it does like said then that person is the Beast that comes out of the sea, and the Man of Sin has been revealed.

But I do agree someone is going to impact society, and there is no time for us to rest on the lees. And if the KJV was good enough for the Apostle Paul it is good enough for me. Lol

[1ofthechosen]

Esaias are you a supporter of Dominion theology?

[1ofthechosen]

Hey but apparently God speaks only the King's English, so the KJV is God breathed...

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Esaias

The twitter screed you copied and posted is an example of leftist libtard propaganda. Anything that involves Christians doing anything other than shutting up and staying inside the four walls of their church buildings is a "plot to take over the world and burn gays and witches at the stake." Aquila can tell you all about it.

When the church and the world's politics become entangled, it is the church that ends up compromised and leaves her garments soiled. Earthly power corrupts.

Keeping the church focused on advancing a spiritual kingdom that permeates all nations, all cultures, all peoples, all governments, without boarders or earthly political affiliations keeps the church spotless. The entire world around us can become as liberal as liberal can be... but we... the church can live for God victoriously, welcoming those whom the Spirit draws into the Kingdom. And in this mode of operation we are associated only with Jesus.

This politically obsessed Christianity is a byproduct of our media driven political culture. And, it ties the church to marching orders to take the government. And any political party wanting blind followers will pretend to buy into the movement, to gain their votes. And this is exactly what is happening in America. Sadly, the church increasingly will become associated not with Jesus, but with a political philosophy connected to a specific party. And, we see that here in America. People are increasingly rejecting the Gospel because they do not agree with the GOP... and frankly, it's become one and the same. Look at your post in which you referenced me. Many of you guys discount my sincere Christian faith because I don't agree with all of the GOP's political positions.

According to this fake Christianity, one can only be a Christian if they bow the knee to the GOP. If they vote for a Democrat, they are counted as traitors, false Christians, etc. So, clearly it's all about politics, not Christ. Not the Gospel. Not salvation. Not a spiritual kingdom without boarders or earthly politic. Which means... you're just a political hack dressed as a Christian with loud opinions that sound so "moral" people are afraid to challenge you.

Well, I'm not afraid to challenge anyone. You're a fake. And if it were not for your political vision... you wouldn't be Christian at all.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Maybe you need a new Bible? Perhaps you should get a King James instead of whatever it is you've been reading?

The Bible says we are to teach all nations to obey Christ, to preach the Gospel to every creature, and that all men are commanded by God to repent.

Does that requiring using religion as a tool to hijack a government? Does that requiring passing laws to enforce what we believe on others of free conscience? Jesus didn't say, "Pass laws to get them to obey me." He said, "Preach the Gospel".

You're just wanting to use religion to corner folks into thinking they can't be Christian unless they vote Republican. In the end, that's all it is.

As for the seven mountains strategy, it's just a plan for impacting society, just like all missionary plans and revival strategies that people come up with.

And here's a thought: Somebody's going to influence society, might as well be Christians.

We influence society by BEING Christians. Not by using the government to force people to live as we do. That does so much damage to our message. It's going to take a generation or two to cleans the church of this mess and convince people that the Kingdom of God isn't about how you vote or your earthly manner of politics. It's about being saved, born again, sharing the Gospel, and living for Jesus as individuals in our individual lives.

I believe that the Gospel can only flourish authentically in a free society.

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Does that requiring using religion as a tool to hijack a government? Does that requiring passing laws to enforce what we believe on others of free conscience? Jesus didn't say, "Pass laws to get them to obey me." He said, "Preach the Gospel".

You're just wanting to use religion to corner folks into thinking they can't be Christian unless they vote Republican. In the end, that's all it is.



We influence society by BEING Christians. Not by using the government to force people to live as we do. That does so much damage to our message. It's going to take a generation or two to cleans the church of this mess and convince people that the Kingdom of God isn't about how you vote or your earthly manner of politics. It's about being saved, born again, sharing the Gospel, and living for Jesus as individuals in our individual lives.

I believe that the Gospel can only flourish authentically in a free society.

I agree you said this better than I did. I mean thank God this is the NAR, and not the real Apostolic movement. I mean these guys will employ a false spirit if need be. That pretty shows you how ethical these people are, they aren't even genuine on the 1st mountain they began on! So whaf could be the outcome of the rest?

I mean let's just say the Apostolic movement did this. We are genuine on the 1st mountain and we pretty much have every one of these other 7 mountains in place besides for media, and Government. We could do all but the Government sphere. To have a bunch of adherents to a religious government when we see the outcome of the Catholic Church with this same idea, is disastrous.

While I do know "The Lord is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." My Bible is clear that man's will doesn't line up with God's will on that point. Should we just give in and throw up our hands on that point? Absolutely not. But what we should focus on, is what does the Word definitely promise us? Aiming to do something we were never intended to do, in a time period we were never intended to do it, is going to prove absolutely disastrous. That's like a country sending troops to war in 7 DIFFERENT WARS at the same time! Aquila you were in the Army and went to 1 war, what do you think would be the outcome of that plan?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

I agree you said this better than I did. I mean thank God this is the NAR, and not the real Apostolic movement. I mean these guys will employ a false spirit if need be. That pretty shows you how ethical these people are, they aren't even genuine on the 1st mountain they began on! So whaf could be the outcome of the rest?

I mean let's just say the Apostolic movement did this. We are genuine on the 1st mountain and we pretty much have every one of these other 7 mountains in place besides for media, and Government. We could do all but the Government sphere. To have a bunch of adherents to a religious government when we see the outcome of the Catholic Church with this same idea, is disastrous.

While I do know "The Lord is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." My Bible is clear that man's will doesn't line up with God's will on that point. Should we just give in and throw up our hands on that point? Absolutely not. But what we should focus on, is what does the Word definitely promise us? Aiming to do something we were never intended to do, in a time period we were never intended to do it, is going to prove absolutely disastrous. That's like a country sending troops to war in 7 DIFFERENT WARS at the same time! Aquila you were in the Army and went to 1 war, what do you think would be the outcome of that plan?

I simply see it as the revival of a mix of Calvin's Geneva and the Catholic Inquisitions. It's all predicated upon Reformed Orthodoxy and would reduce us to a third world society.