Daniel's 70th week

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Esaias

But perhaps you, or anyone, could present the case from Scripture that the 70th week of Daniel is to be separated from the other 69 weeks, by a gap of some two thousand years or so? When did the 69 weeks end, and why, and why should anyone think the 70th never started? And why did nobody recognize that key piece of information until Scofield was selling his book, financed by non Christian Zionist Jews?

The case I make in my end time belief is that the 70th week of Daniel would not affect those things I teach about end times.

Nonetheless both the Partial Preterist and Historist systems contain "gaps" in their time frames.

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

If the 70th week was fulfilled in the 1st century would it abolish a future end time scenario?

The similarities in the book of Daniel to the book of Revelation cause us to believe they were written about one singular event. Daniel's prophecys where specifically made concerning Jews up to the time of Christ and shortly after. It was a book to warn Jews of what was ahead. Although, technology and knowledge seems progressive and linear, History seems circular. In other words history repeats itself. I do believe that there will be strong similarities in the way God deals with the nations that are mentioned in the book of Daniel and the book of Revelation. I do expect an anti christ and other endtime scenario's to play out, but I just don't think will play out as the masses are predicting them.

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Can you present where the Jewish faith has beheaded or killed any Christians in our time? Or anyone in the last 1800 years?

I can present facts all day that the Communists and Muslims have and it continues to this day. And YET almost all we hear about both here and other places on the net is how horrible the Jews are.

As a matter of fact I consistently got A's in history in school. It was my favorite subject. Now since the coming of the Internet where apparently much more truth has come to light I'm sure I could still learn much more about it.

Problem is that long ago I decided to put my free time into studying the Bible. Other interests have been put to the side for the most part.

I don't blame the Jews of being the scourge of the Earth, nor do I blame muslims of behing jihad extremists. We have got bad apples in every bunch. I do believe that modern Jews today have part in the endtime. Although, the Jewish people aren't beheading and killing people. I do believe they are very involved in globalization and manipulating through wealth. It is greed that motivates people on this earth and who ever controls the wealth controls the people. I think that is where Jews today fit in. The Harlot (mystery babyon) that is seated on the back of the beast seems to have lots of similarities to Israel. She has gone to bed with all the nations around her for gain. The Jewish nation is not alone in it, even Christian nations are so caught up in the almighty dollar that they now serve mammon.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Can you present where the Jewish faith has beheaded or killed any Christians in our time? Or anyone in the last 1800 years?

I can present facts all day that the Communists and Muslims have and it continues to this day. And YET almost all we hear about both here and other places on the net is how horrible the Jews are.

As a matter of fact I consistently got A's in history in school. It was my favorite subject. Now since the coming of the Internet where apparently much more truth has come to light I'm sure I could still learn much more about it.

Problem is that long ago I decided to put my free time into studying the Bible. Other interests have been put to the side for the most part.

The Communist Revolution in Russia was hailed as a triumph of Judaism. The leaders of the Bolsheviks were Jews. The top positions at just about every level in the Party were occupied by Jews. These were facts well known and widely publicized in the period from 1917-1939. Publicized by both gentiles and Jews, newspapers, US government reports, Jewish organizations, etc. After WW2 it all suddenly was verboten to speak of the connection. Solzhenitsyn wrote about it, however, effectively getting himself banned in the so called Free World. The Communist Revolution in China, likewise. Communism was and still largely is a creature of Jewish origin and control. Karl Marx was a Jew, Lenin was a Jew, Trotsky was a Jew, Beria was a Jew. On and on it goes.

"Oh, but the Communists persecuted Jews in Russia!" Yeah, so? Jews get persecuted in modern Israel, BY JEWS. They present a united front to the world, but the reality is global Judaism is divided up into sects, some of whom literally have no problem killing the others if it is perceived as "good for Jews overall".

You got A's in public school history class because your teachers were managed by the National Education Agency (NEA), which was and is a subversive Communist front organization (based on their OWN PUBLIC STATEMENTS over the years). You did not learn real, actual history, nobody in public school does.

Jihadi Islam is almost entirely funded and recruited out of Saudi Arabia and the Wahabbi sect(s) of Islam. ISIS, AlQaeda, Daesh, etc, are all Saudi backed terrorist groups. The Royal House of Saud are converted Jews (Saudi is run by what used to be called crypto Jews, much like Spain used to be). The modern state of Israel has been caught REPEATEDLY assisting ISIS in Syria. The entire mess that is the middle east is the direct consequence of destabilization policies of the US and Israel, designed to strengthen Israel's position and provide ongoing excuses for US military involvement in constantly keeping Israel's perceived enemies divided and under threat. The Arab radical terrorist movement was essentially created by TE Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia), a British asset whose job was to create "flying columns" of Arab guerrillas to harass the Ottoman Turks during WW1. The British government has been in partnership with powerful Jewish families since the 1700s when the House of Rothschild was invited to London to take over Crown finances from the Scot banking families previously given that privilege. Oh, and the chief financier of the American side during the War of Independence? Why, that would be Chaim Salomon. What a cohencidence.

The current mass immigration of mostly Muslim military aged males into Europe (resulting in social disorder, collapse of rule of law in many areas, establishing of Muslim enclaves governed by Sharia law, massive increase in rapes, child kidnappings and pedophilia, violent assaults, and even a few "terror attacks"), has been PUBLICLY ADMITTED by Jews to be a Jewish programme to "fundamentally transform" Europe and keep the European nations destabilized and focused on their newfound Muslim invasion problem.

During the Crusades Jews and Muslims routinely cooperated in the attacks and massacres of Christians in the middle east. There is definite evidence Islam itself was a creation of certain Jewish groups designed specifically to serve as a bludgeon against Christendom, to keep the Christians fighting against a bogeyman, and originally supported by Vatican money and other assistance (because the papacy saw it as a means to scare Europe into submitting to papal hegemony). And who was running the papacy, by the way? The papacy has largely been run, for CENTURIES, by the so called "Black Nobility", Italian and Spanish aristocratic families who trace their ancestry TO HEROD.

Now, I've presented you with claims about Communism and Islam, their origins, etc. Go do some research and find out for yourself. Might reshape your views on what's actually going on in the world.

[coksiw]

Lenin was of Jew origin but according to Wikipedia (notice the quote is full of cites), it doesn't seem that the second generation Jewish mother had much influence on him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin:

Lenin's father, Ilya Nikolayevich Ulyanov, was from a family of serfs; his ethnic origins remain unclear, with suggestions being made that he was Russian, Chuvash, Mordvin, or Kalmyk.[3] Despite this lower-class background he had risen to middle-class status, studying physics and mathematics at Kazan Imperial University before teaching at the Penza Institute for the Nobility.[4] Ilya married Maria Alexandrovna Blank in mid-1863.[5] Well educated and from a relatively prosperous background, she was the daughter of a wealthy German–Swedish Lutheran mother, and a Russian Jewish father who had converted to Christianity and worked as a physician.[6] It is likely that Lenin was unaware of his mother's half-Jewish ancestry, which was only discovered by his sister Anna after his death.[7] Soon after their wedding, Ilya obtained a job in Nizhny Novgorod, rising to become Director of Primary Schools in the Simbirsk district six years later. Five years after that, he was promoted to Director of Public Schools for the province, overseeing the foundation of over 450 schools as a part of the government's plans for modernisation. His dedication to education earned him the Order of St. Vladimir, which bestowed on him the status of hereditary nobleman.[8]

And then this

Lenin's mother was concerned by her son's radicalisation, and was instrumental in convincing the Interior Ministry to allow him to return to the city of Kazan, but not the university.[25]

Wary of his political views, Lenin's mother bought a country estate in Alakaevka village, Samara Oblast, in the hope that her son would turn his attention to agriculture. He had little interest in farm management, and his mother soon sold the land, keeping the house as a summer home.[27]

Lenin radicalization seems to have started at the University. There were some political ideology wings in Europe at the time. Young people were getting caught in it. It think it is just the work of the devil to oppress humans world wide. Nothing to do with specific ethnicities.
The same thing is happening in here the USA, but with different ideologies. It is just the humanism, trying to change human hearts by force according to their own definition of righteousness.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by coksiw

Lenin was of Jew origin but according to Wikipedia (notice the quote is full of cites), it doesn't seem that the second generation Jewish mother had much influence on him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin:


And then this





Lenin radicalization seems to have started at the University. There were some political ideology wings in Europe at the time. Young people were getting caught in it. It think it is just the work of the devil to oppress humans world wide. Nothing to do with specific ethnicities.
The same thing is happening in here the USA, but with different ideologies. It is just the humanism, trying to change human hearts by force according to their own definition of righteousness.

Who was running the radicalization of the universities in Europe? Why were practically the entire leadership of the Communist Movement in both Russia and throughout Europe overly stocked with Jews? The Jewish role in Bolshevism was described by Winston Churchill and others, including Jews themselves. One of the first things the Communists did was make "antisemitism" a crime. This was essentially the first time a nation had done so.

[Esaias]

But getting back to the 70th Week, I see brother Michael has opted out of demonstrating why it should be severed from the other 69 Weeks. Perhaps someone else would like to do so?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Esaias

But getting back to the 70th Week, I see brother Michael has opted out of demonstrating why it should be severed from the other 69 Weeks. Perhaps someone else would like to do so?

Quote where I said it should be severed from the other weeks please?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

The case I make in my end time belief is that the 70th week of Daniel would not affect those things I teach about end times.

Nonetheless both the Partial Preterist and Historist systems contain "gaps" in their time frames.

When did you show us the above?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

In the broader scope of things this seems to be a minor threat in our time. I hear constantly about the evil Jews, here and elsewhere. While I certainly disagree with the guy in the video, his approach is similar to our own.

When the Messiah comes he will defeat the nations and rule them with an iron rod.

His sin is in refusing Yeshua as the Messiah. Yes it is antichrist doctrine. One strand of it. On a world wide basis Judaism is nowhere near the terror to Christians as the Communists and Islamics who have killed millions of believers in Yeshua.

I cant think right off hand IN OUR DAY where the Jewish faith has beheaded or put to death Christians at all.

It isn't about being beheaded Mike.

It is about you and what you teach becoming irrelevant.

You are a Christian who likes to Yah it up, and Yeshua your way across the Internet. That's what Anti-missionary Rabbis like. They like guys who prattle about with Hebrew names while they read an English translation of a Greek Only Text. So, no beheadings. They just want to debate you in front of an audience. They want to make a world were there is no Christianity, just Rabbinical Judaism. Not through bloodshed, but through discussion, preferably a discussion peppered with a lot of Hebrew.