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04-09-2020, 07:02 AM
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Re: Rev. Spell Quote
Here is a link to the latest article (I believe it is the latest, anyway)
https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-cas...eds-at-church/
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04-09-2020, 07:39 AM
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Re: Rev. Spell Quote
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Sounds like another way to keep control. Do they figure the people are so helpless they cant even get their own unleavened bread and grape juice? No doubt one has to get theirs at the "house of God" to make it official.
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Seriously?
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04-09-2020, 08:04 AM
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Re: Rev. Spell Quote
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Sounds like another way to keep control. Do they figure the people are so helpless they cant even get their own unleavened bread and grape juice? No doubt one has to get theirs at the "house of God" to make it official.
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Wow!
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04-09-2020, 01:43 PM
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Re: Rev. Spell Quote
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Sounds like another way to keep control. Do they figure the people are so helpless they cant even get their own unleavened bread and grape juice? No doubt one has to get theirs at the "house of God" to make it official.
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Way out in left field. You need to step outside and taste the oxygen.
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04-09-2020, 04:04 PM
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Re: Rev. Spell Quote
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Traditionally, shut ins and sick folk and others at home without being able to go to church for communion would have a minister actually come to their house to pray for/with them and bring them some of the communion bread and wine.
Without N95 masks and tyvek suits, even.
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04-09-2020, 04:25 PM
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Re: Rev. Spell Quote
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Traditionally, shut ins and sick folk and others at home without being able to go to church for communion would have a minister actually come to their house to pray for/with them and bring them some of the communion bread and wine.
Without N95 masks and tyvek suits, even.
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And that is the right(eous) way.
This whole thing has highlighted for me the so-called clergy/laity divide in many churches. The clergy, as the only active participants in the ministry, can perform their functions adequately, even if no one is in the room. They just need a camera and an internet connection (since for them, ministry = talking). The laity, as the inactive/passive spectators and recipients of the ministry, can perform their functions adequately, even if they are the only ones in the room. They just need a camera and an internet connection.
Why, you can even "take communion" all by your onesie in your living room without so much as a brother or sister within miles of your presence. Just have a camera and an internet connection.
A monolithic juggernaut can only move forward, I guess???
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04-09-2020, 04:33 PM
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Re: Rev. Spell Quote
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And that is the right(eous) way.
This whole thing has highlighted for me the so-called clergy/laity divide in many churches. The clergy, as the only active participants in the ministry, can perform their functions adequately, even if no one is in the room. They just need a camera and an internet connection (since for them, ministry = talking). The laity, as the inactive/passive spectators and recipients of the ministry, can perform their functions adequately, even if they are the only ones in the room. They just need a camera and an internet connection.
Why, you can even "take communion" all by your onesie in your living room without so much as a brother or sister within miles of your presence. Just have a camera and an internet connection.
A monolithic juggernaut can only move forward, I guess???
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Exactly. Virtual religion for practically virtual people. How sad. Because many will discover they only had a virtual simulated salvation.
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04-09-2020, 05:11 PM
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Re: Rev. Spell Quote
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Exactly. Virtual religion for practically virtual people. How sad. Because many will discover they only had a virtual simulated salvation.
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Ouch! The virtual reality pandemic, hopefully real Christian's wont be deceived by these "New Norms."
The Lord has never given permission to submit to an authority that changes the very fundamentals of Christianity, even though it be through the guise of necessity.
This is the problem when the state usurps authority that God didnt give. They in their power trip began to think they have power over the church, it is an impossibility. If it were possible the state would legislate unrighteousness and force the church to comply.
The world loves it's own, darkness hates light, because it shows forth its evil deeds.For this reason men often have had to make a decision to obey God and not man, even at the cost of their life.
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04-09-2020, 05:22 PM
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Re: Rev. Spell Quote
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Ouch! The virtual reality pandemic, hopefully real Christian's wont be deceived by these "New Norms."
The Lord has never given permission to submit to an authority that changes the very fundamentals of Christianity, even though it be through the guise of necessity.
This is the problem when the state usurps authority that God didnt give. They in their power trip began to think they have power over the church, it is an impossibility. If it were possible the state would legislate unrighteousness and force the church to comply.
The world loves it's own, darkness hates light, because it shows forth its evil deeds.For this reason men often have had to make a decision to obey God and not man, even at the cost of their life.
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Exactly. I believe some separation of wheat and chaff is taking place.
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04-13-2020, 03:22 AM
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Re: Rev. Spell Quote
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I get it...its not the same...but we didnt throw out Christianity because the Apostle Paul couldnt show up in person.
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The Apostle Paul didn’t have to show up at all. The churches were all elderships, and communal. Christianity survived because of community. You couldn’t leave one church and find another. That happened later in history. Early churches were communities, which were families. Hence the titles, elders, mothers, fathers, brothers, and sisters. We’ve been groomed for this event in the Pentecostal church. We are the First Church of the Internet. Moving the show over to Snap Chat is no big thing. Hey, it’s going to save on paying for air conditioning the churches this summer. While everyone is under house arrest.
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