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Old 09-13-2020, 10:02 AM
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Re: Hoffman Bids thee Farewell....

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The various schools of eschatology are:

Futurism
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Preterism
Idealism

I believe all the above schools are represented on this forum.
With futurism as the tiny minority of the Apostolic truth.
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Old 09-13-2020, 10:04 AM
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I agree with your assessment. It is much of the time more of a war zone against what they call "futurism".
Yes, kinda strange to get on an "Apostolic" forum that predominantly insists prophecy is all in the past. It is a spiritual twilight zone to me.
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Old 09-13-2020, 10:21 AM
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Yes, kinda strange to get on an "Apostolic" forum that predominantly insists prophecy is all in the past. It is a spiritual twilight zone to me.
It is not "apostolic" to think that most prophecy is future just because someone says it is, or just because an apostolic organization holds that to be the case. True "Apostolic" belief is what the Bible is INTENDED to be understood as. And I am apostolic to the core about salvation and Godhead theology. However, I realized it is not APOSTOLIC in the true sense to be futurist.

I believe the apostolic church today needs to come to further truth of the error of futurism.

However, it is not salvational, despite fanatics who think it is.
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It is not "apostolic" to think that most prophecy is future just because someone says it is, or just because an apostolic organization holds that to be the case. True "Apostolic" belief is what the Bible is INTENDED to be understood as. And I am apostolic to the core about salvation and Godhead theology. However, I realized it is not APOSTOLIC in the true sense to be futurist.

I believe the apostolic church today needs to come to further truth of the error of futurism.

However, it is not salvational, despite fanatics who think it is.
Maybe they take Pauls warning:

Let no man deceive you by any means..........seriously?
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Maybe they take Pauls warning:

Let no man deceive you by any means..........seriously?
Thanks for stressing my point of what we all should be doing!

Coupled together with the admonition to not judge lest we be judged, in other wrds, as harsh as we are with people is how harsh we will be treated by God. Prophecy is not Acts 2:38 salvation. And if someone thinks it is just as salvational, that means they could be lost for thinking others are lost if they are incorrect about prophecy, when it turns out they were incorrect themselves, whereas as someone who does not believe it is salvational, (WHICH IT IS NOT), but is wrong about prophecy, would not be lost over it.
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Maybe they take Pauls warning:

Let no man deceive you by any means..........seriously?
So you agree with IHOP and Bickle about prophecy but he does not believe in ACTS 2:38 or Oneness. It's like you think more of prophecy than salvation truth. Do you consider IHOP people lost because they are not oneness?
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Thanks for stressing my point of what we all should be doing!

Coupled together with the admonition to not judge lest we be judged, in other wrds, as harsh as we are with people is how harsh we will be treated by God. Prophecy is not Acts 2:38 salvation. And if someone thinks it is just as salvational, that means they could be lost for thinking others are lost if they are incorrect about prophecy, when it turns out they were incorrect themselves, whereas as someone who does not believe it is salvational, (WHICH IT IS NOT), but is wrong about prophecy, would not be lost over it.
This is the "apostolic version" of the light doctrine.

Nothing is salvational except OUR DOCTRINE! Acts 2:38 stands alone as truth that needs to be loved!

I dont believe in luck but....good luck with that idea!
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Bro, who on the Admin called you out on this?

Just wondering...

This sure sounds fishy coming from their end...

I know of quite a few on this forum who have multiple accounts....

Unregistered being one.

Huh?
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So you agree with IHOP and Bickle about prophecy but he does not believe in ACTS 2:38 or Oneness. It's like you think more of prophecy than salvation truth. Do you consider IHOP people lost because they are not oneness?
Mike, I love truth. Period.

Best I can tell if someone denys Christ is the Everlasting Father by the time they reach the finish line they wont get to enter in. Do I believe many of them have the Holy Ghost? Absolutely!

Just like I believe many Apostolics have the Holy Ghost. Does that in itself guarantee they will not be hurt of the second death? No way.
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Coupled together with the admonition to not judge lest we be judged, in other wrds, as harsh as we are with people is how harsh we will be treated by God.
I strive to be kind as possible to others even if we disagree. I want to be judged with mercy.
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