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Old 07-12-2007, 12:01 PM
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I can name two.

1. Women keeping silent in church.
2. Social works (like taking care of the widows and the elderly).




What other NT teachings do we ignore?
Every church that I've ever been a part of observed number 1.

I don't remember the scripture that says taking care of the widows and elderly, unless you are speaking of "...pure religion undefiled before God is this, visiting the fatherless and widows in their afflictions, and keeping yourselves unspotted before the world." (paraphrased)

Every church that I've ever been a part of observed that command too.
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I can name two.

1. Women keeping silent in church.
2. Social works (like taking care of the widows and the elderly).




What other NT teachings do we ignore?
Have you sold everything you own and given the proceeds to the poor?

Don't lie now, God is the supreme accountant, and His version of the IRS audit (Ananias & Saphira) is quite severe compared to ours.
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:03 PM
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Have you sold everything you own and given the proceeds to the poor?

Don't lie now, God is the supreme accountant, and His version of the IRS audit (Ananias & Saphira) is quite severe compared to ours.
is that a biblical mandate for every child of God?
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is that a biblical mandate for every child of God?
It's in there as a direct order, whereas the visiting of the widows and fatherless is given as an ideal for which to strive.
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:09 PM
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Acts 2:44-47

44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;

45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
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Acts 4:32
2 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
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Acts 2:44-47

44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;

45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
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2 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
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As far as I know this only happened in Jerusalem.

Also it was never a commandment or a rule of any kind... it appears to have been a decision their part.

Also the Jerusalem church was the recipient of financial help from other churches... one wonders if it was their decision to live communally had anything to do with their need for outside assistance.
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Have you sold everything you own and given the proceeds to the poor?

Don't lie now, God is the supreme accountant, and His version of the IRS audit (Ananias & Saphira) is quite severe compared to ours.
Ananias and Sapphira were under no mandate whatsoever to do what they did.

They did this if their own volition.
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It's in there as a direct order, whereas the visiting of the widows and fatherless is given as an ideal for which to strive.
a direct order to one many who asked what he personally must do, and the scripture also says that Jesus reply (sell everything) was spoken because Jesus saw his heart.

it was not a corporate command to the church, else peter would have included it when he was asked "men and brethern what MUST we do?"
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Ananias and Sapphira were under no mandate whatsoever to do what they did.

They did this if their own volition.
If we're going to stir the pot, you've got to work with me.
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It's in there as a direct order, whereas the visiting of the widows and fatherless is given as an ideal for which to strive.
Could you provide scripture on the bolded portion for further discussion?
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