Is Oneness Modalism ?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Modalism is Oneness. MODES of God would be Father, son and Holy Ghost, rather than "persons" of God. But there is Monarchian Modalism and Dynamic Modalism. Dynamic Modalism is like Adoptionism. They teach Jesus did not pre-exist. So we would be more like Monarchianistic Modalism, which believes Jesus is the Father in flesh.

YOU stole my thought however you made it sound intelligent where mine would have sounded LIKE ME.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Modalism is Oneness. MODES of God would be Father, son and Holy Ghost, rather than "persons" of God. But there is Monarchian Modalism and Dynamic Modalism. Dynamic Modalism is like Adoptionism. They teach Jesus did not pre-exist. So we would be more like Monarchianistic Modalism, which believes Jesus is the Father in flesh.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

YOU stole my thought however you made it sound intelligent where mine would have sounded LIKE ME.

So then what I posted last night from Bro. Hayes' book was correct?!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Barb

So then what I posted last night from Bro. Hayes' book was correct?!

Yes.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I think you are referring to successive modalism which taught the Father changed into the Son and was ONLY the Son then he changed into the Holy Ghost and is now ONLY the Holy Ghost

That is the doctrine that all of us are accused of. It is much in error. I believe in similtaneous modes. Father and Son existing at once.

[Scott Hutchinson]

I certainly don't believe in that succesive modalism stuff.I guess the term modes of expression can be the same as manifesitations.
I certainly do believe in One God who has revealed Himself as Father,Son,Holy Ghost.
If one dies and sees a old man,young man,and a dove then they certainly haven't gone to heaven have they ?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Someone said once that if you believe God exists as Father,Son,Holy Ghost you weren't a Modalist ,became Modalism teaches that God became Father,Son,Holy Ghost like actors putting on and taking off masks.

I've seen God explained as putting on different masks and playing different roles. I've also seen those masks or roles referred to as personas and that was used to explain the trinity.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

That is the doctrine that all of us are accused of. It is much in error. I believe in similtaneous modes. Father and Son existing at once.

Well I believe the are similtaneous as well, however Im not sure I would consider the HG another mode in the same sense I woul call Father and Son a mode or form or being of the same personal Deity. Spirit seems to take more of the meaning of the very essence of being of The God...both Father and Son share the same Spirit. Both are somehow manifest to the church via Spirit