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Old 09-27-2007, 10:28 PM
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I think he did a solid job pandering to the right in order to quell their fears that the fellowship is compromising ... I just hope it was the right tactic ..... His words could bite him tomorrow.
Bro. Haney is on pretty safe footing. Anyone with any wisdom knows that we need someone who is a uniter, who is progessive but not overwhelmingly so. There are a few others who could fit the bill--but we have to have a centrist, or we are going to fall apart.

Bro. Haney generally comes through things, and does not usually step out so far that he can't handle the onslaught.

Right now, I'm more worried about unity than I am whether the res passes or not. Whether it does or not, I'm staying put.
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:29 PM
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PP Thanks for chiming in.

It is difficult to read what really happenned with all the rhertoic babble against everything not of a certain mindset.

SoCali and MOW did a much better and unbiased version last year. Like watching CNN and how bad GWB is tonight in many threads.

Maybe you can appeal to have Fair and Balanced reporting.
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:32 PM
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He did an admirable job.

Again, he shined in the business session today. A couple of motions were made that many, many, men laughed at - but he comforted the men who had made the motions with a lot of compassion and respect.

My admiration for him really increased today.
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:33 PM
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I think that Bro. Haney preached a good solid message tonight. I think he would love to have said more of what he felt but wisdom prevented it. People hang on every word and in that position you have to keep it very much in mind I guess.

I would love to have heard him just "let loose".
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He did an admirable job.

Again, he shined in the business session today. A couple of motions were made that many, many, men laughed at - but he comforted the men who had made the motions with a lot of compassion and respect.

My admiration for him really increased today.
And the fact he allowed them to vote him back in.

I would not want the job!

Wait, they did not vote for me!!!

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He did an admirable job.

Again, he shined in the business session today. A couple of motions were made that many, many, men laughed at - but he comforted the men who had made the motions with a lot of compassion and respect.

My admiration for him really increased today.
Give an example of these motions please...
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:35 PM
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PP Thanks for chiming in.

It is difficult to read what really happenned with all the rhertoic babble against everything not of a certain mindset.

SoCali and MOW did a much better and unbiased version last year. Like watching CNN and how bad GWB is tonight in many threads.

Maybe you can appeal to have Fair and Balanced reporting.
Thanks BOOM.

I must say I was very angered to read some of the outright lies posted today.

It's one thing to post an opinion, but this idea of posting something as fact, only to claim later it was a joke, is shameless.
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He did an admirable job.

Again, he shined in the business session today. A couple of motions were made that many, many, men laughed at - but he comforted the men who had made the motions with a lot of compassion and respect.

My admiration for him really increased today.
He's balanced, sees the big picture, understands our roots but does not let things stagnate. He's smooth and a strong leader.

He was needed after the retirement of Bro. Urshan. I'm sad that he has had less good health, but I'm thankful that there are a few other leaders emerging who can now step in when Bro. Haney decides to step down. God knows how to keep us.
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I don't know if I would say he pandered.

How in the world could anything he said tonight "bite him?"

Even the most liberal UPC folks agreed with almost everything he said.
I think he was particularly rough on the left tonite ... PP ... on purpose ...

He singled them out very early in the second part of his message ...


When he said:
Your holiness in dress is a byproduct ... when you lose your conviction ... you soon will lose your walk w/ God ...

Some have said "I don't believe all that ..."

"I'm not going to teach separation against the world"

"I will still teach the New Birth .... and Acts 2:38"

If you sell out one area it will be easy to sell out the next ----

His intent tonite was rally around the banners of Acts 2:38 and Holiness ... as to send a unified message ... while still instilling fear in those on the left thinking of "compromising" by accepting a "watered down message" and appeasing the right by saying the key buzzwords as to keep them in the fold
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Bro. Haney is on pretty safe footing. Anyone with any wisdom knows that we need someone who is a uniter, who is progessive but not overwhelmingly so. There are a few others who could fit the bill--but we have to have a centrist, or we are going to fall apart.

Bro. Haney generally comes through things, and does not usually step out so far that he can't handle the onslaught.

Right now, I'm more worried about unity than I am whether the res passes or not. Whether it does or not, I'm staying put.
Well he definitely spoke in faith when he proclaimed "There is unity in our midst"
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