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Old 10-02-2007, 11:44 PM
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Very fine sir. Same time zone here in Houston.
Appreciated your post here. It is amazing to me that the "founders" would choose to stay in fellowship with Trinitarians, and those who claim to be their progeny cannot fellowship with other APOSTOLICS!!!
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:30 AM
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The difference is that the old PCI brethrenweren't embarassed to be Pentecostal and weren't trying to move away from emphasizing the message of Acts 2:38.

They came out of denominations to preach it and live it.

These new dudes are going the other direction, and have a totally different emphasis in their focus andministries.

Hearing Oscar Vouga or most any of the old time PCI guys preach,you couldn't have told them from their PAJC counterparts.

They weren't up trying to move away from being Apostolic.
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Old 10-03-2007, 08:43 AM
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The difference is that the old PCI brethrenweren't embarassed to be Pentecostal and weren't trying to move away from emphasizing the message of Acts 2:38.

They came out of denominations to preach it and live it.

These new dudes are going the other direction, and have a totally different emphasis in their focus andministries.

Hearing Oscar Vouga or most any of the old time PCI guys preach,you couldn't have told them from their PAJC counterparts.

They weren't up trying to move away from being Apostolic.
I know you guys don't like to mention names but is this happening in the UPC or in other Oneness circles. To take a person who is in an Apostolic organization and claims to be a part of this movement and say that they are moving away from that is a pretty stong charge.

How can you know someone's motive or reason for preaching a certain way? Why would they remain in a oneness organization if they didn't hold the same beliefs? Seems to me that there is no respect for men of God who have any view different than the water and spirit doctrine.
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Old 10-03-2007, 08:52 AM
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I know you guys don't like to mention names but is this happening in the UPC or in other Oneness circles. To take a person who is in an Apostolic organization and claims to be a part of this movement and say that they are moving away from that is a pretty stong charge.

How can you know someone's motive or reason for preaching a certain way? Why would they remain in a oneness organization if they didn't hold the same beliefs?
DG, this is simple. just take a look around. it is one thing to claim to be PCI. But when you look at what that was and compare it to what is now making the claim, you find that in a good portion of these guys, (not CCNashville) dont resemble the PCI they claim to be.
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Old 10-03-2007, 08:58 AM
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DG, this is simple. just take a look around. it is one thing to claim to be PCI. But when you look at what that was and compare it to what is now making the claim, you find that in a good portion of these guys, (not CCNashville) dont resemble the PCI they claim to be.
Well, what I am looking for is the now. Who out there is preaching the PCI message? Are there preachers in the UPC/Apostolic movement that are claiming PCI and are not following through with believers getting the Holy Ghost or Baptism in Jesus Name? I couldn't imagine an Apostolic church were people didn't receive the fullness of the Holy Ghost.
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:04 AM
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Well, what I am looking for is the now. Who out there is preaching the PCI message? Are there preachers in the UPC/Apostolic movement that are claiming PCI and are not following through with believers getting the Holy Ghost or Baptism in Jesus Name? I couldn't imagine an Apostolic church were people didn't receive the fullness of the Holy Ghost.
I dont know why you are looking for it and I sure dont know where to send you to find it. I guess you can go to Nashville. CC1 says Christ Church works pretty good.

They baptize a lot of people every year.
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The difference is that the old PCI brethrenweren't embarassed to be Pentecostal and weren't trying to move away from emphasizing the message of Acts 2:38.

They came out of denominations to preach it and live it.

These new dudes are going the other direction, and have a totally different emphasis in their focus andministries.

Hearing Oscar Vouga or most any of the old time PCI guys preach,you couldn't have told them from their PAJC counterparts.

They weren't up trying to move away from being Apostolic.
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:10 AM
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We preach Acts 2:38 and have lots and lots of people each year baptized in Jesus' name and receive the Holy Ghost. We just don't preach that everyone else is doomed to hell, because we don't believe that. How does that differ from the original PCI????
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We preach Acts 2:38 and have lots and lots of people each year baptized in Jesus' name and receive the Holy Ghost. We just don't preach that everyone else is doomed to hell, because we don't believe that. How does that differ from the original PCI????
Sherri, the difference is you don't tear down the rest of us.
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Sherri, the difference is you don't tear down the rest of us.
I will never do that; I consider you a brother in the Lord and I respect what you believe.
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