I wish God would just reveal himself to all man kind. - Page 2

mizpeh · #11 11-27-2007, 09:01 AM

Why do we have to see God through his creation: Psalm 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

Why do we have to know God is by observing the affairs of men and their receiving the consequences of their actions in this life?

Why is He so indirect?

Job 23:8-9 Behold, I go forward, but he is not there; and backward, but I cannot perceive him: On the left hand, where he doth work, but I cannot behold him: he hideth himself on the right hand, that I cannot see him:

Why does God have to be invisible? and how if we live and move and breath in Him does He hide his presence from us? He allows us to "feel" his presence at times but most of the time there is no indication that He is there.

COOPER · #12 11-27-2007, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

Why do we have to see God through his creation: Psalm 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

Why do we have to know God is by observing the affairs of men and their receiving the consequences of their actions in this life?

Why is He so indirect?

Job 23:8-9 Behold, I go forward, but he is not there; and backward, but I cannot perceive him: On the left hand, where he doth work, but I cannot behold him: he hideth himself on the right hand, that I cannot see him:

Why does God have to be invisible? and how if we live and move and breath in Him does He hide his presence from us? He allows us to "feel" his presence at times but most of the time there is no indication that He is there.

I like your honesty.

crakjak · #13 11-27-2007, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by OneAccord

No sir, I haven't. Never heard of him til the other day when I found this quote. Powerful message in those few words there....

You can find his testimony at this site:

http://www.tentmaker.org/testimonials/GaryAmirault.html

SDG · #14 11-27-2007, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

Why do we have to see God through his creation: Psalm 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

Why do we have to know God is by observing the affairs of men and their receiving the consequences of their actions in this life?

Why is He so indirect?

Job 23:8-9 Behold, I go forward, but he is not there; and backward, but I cannot perceive him: On the left hand, where he doth work, but I cannot behold him: he hideth himself on the right hand, that I cannot see him:

Why does God have to be invisible? and how if we live and move and breath in Him does He hide his presence from us? He allows us to "feel" his presence at times but most of the time there is no indication that He is there.

He also reveals himself through His Body. We are His hands and feet. This weekend I was meditating on how much we communicate to the world as the Body. Body language makes up the bulk of human communication.

One study at UCLA indicated that up to 93 percent of communication effectiveness is determined by nonverbal cues. Another study indicated that the impact of a performance was determined 7 percent by the words used, 38 percent by voice quality, and 55 percent by the nonverbal communication.

http://humanresources.about.com/od/i...verbal_com.htm

Yes, the Christ is the express image of God ... but we, his body, also, communicate and reveal the love of God, today.

Jesus said,

31Therefore when he had gone out, Jesus said, "Now is the Son of Man glorified, and God is glorified in Him;
32if God is glorified in Him, God will also glorify Him in Himself, and will glorify Him immediately.
33" Little children, I am with you a little while longer You will seek Me; and as I said to the Jews, now I also say to you, 'Where I am going, you cannot come.'
34"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35" By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."

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Coop, I submit that when we, the Church, obey His command ... God will be revealed to all mankind.
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19" After a little while the world will no longer see Me, but you will see Me; because I live, you will live also.

20"In that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you. 21"(He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will (disclose Myself to him."

SDG · #15 11-27-2007, 09:49 AM

1 John 4:

12(AG)No one has seen God at any time; if we love one another, God abides in us, and His (AH)love is perfected in us.
13(AI)By this we know that we abide in Him and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit.
14We have seen and (AJ)testify that the Father has (AK)sent the Son to be the Savior of the world.
15(AL)Whoever confesses that (AM)Jesus is the Son of God, God (AN)abides in him, and he in God.
16(AO)We have come to know and have believed the love which God has (AP)for us (AQ)God is love, and the one who (AR)abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.
17By this, (AS)love is perfected with us, so that we may have (AT)confidence in (AU)the day of judgment; because (AV)as He is, so also are we in this world.
18There is no fear in love; but (AW)perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not (AX)perfected in love.
19(AY)We love, because He first loved us.
20(AZ)If someone says, "I love God," and (BA)hates his brother, he is a (BB)liar; for (BC)the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, (BD)cannot love God whom he has not seen. 21And (BE)this commandment we have from Him, that the one who loves God (BF)should love his brother also.

mizpeh · #16 11-27-2007, 10:27 AM

Well, my pastor said if God was visible, all we would see is God.

Nahum · #17 11-27-2007, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by COOPER

I wish God would just reveal himself to all man kind and make everything crystal clear.

I know what you mean Coop.

Sometimes I wish the same thing.

Why doesn't He just heal everbody?
Why doesn't He just do away with Hell?
Why doesn't He take away evil?
Why is there pain?

I suppose if He did reveal Himself, and made everything crystal clear, there would be no need for faith.

mizpeh · #18 11-27-2007, 10:41 AM

I say, God is hidden because that's just the way it is when your invisible. So He went ahead and made himself visible as Christ. And when Christ (that which is perfect is come) returns everything will be made clear.

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: