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Evang.Benincasa · #**191** 10-12-2015, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Sean, how dishonest can a person get? You said a sign is not a metaphor. And I quoted this from a writer who has nothing to do with preterism, the bible or anything spiritul.

[1 A general remark on metaphor may be in place. For detail we refer the
reader to [11] and, much briefer, to [14]. Coyne, in the subtitle of his
remarkable book [3], announces a paradigmatic shift of the focus of
systems design. Before these, Canfield Smith had introduced powerful
metaphors that have ever since governed graphic interfaces [19]. As we
use it here, a metaphor is a sign, or system of signs, to denotate an object
(or system of objects) in such a way that two interpretants are invoked.

From: http://www.agis.informatik.uni-breme...seWhispers.pdf

A METAPHOR IS A SIGN!

How can you stand there and blatantly lie like you do about this? Where in God's good earth is there a grain of honesty in your heart?

Sean is enslaved by the belief that at some point in time God will violently force the world to love Him. Therefore he hates those who oppose his message and seeks to kill them without mercy. It has already been proven on this forum that Sean is dishonest and lies about those he diagrees with.

Bowas · #**192** 10-12-2015, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Yes Bowas is awesome and you are pathetic.

OK, the sword is literal because it is proceeding out of Jesus' body?

But the winepress isn't coming out of His body, therefore it isn't physical?

Does anyone on this forum even take this guy seriously?

It all seems so simple now, now that I have the proper interpretive method to use.

Thanks Sean!

Rules to proper understanding symbolic vs. literal scripture:

1.) LITERAL: If it proceeds from the body
2.) SYMBOLIC: If it merely touches the body, but not proceeds from.

Evang.Benincasa · #**193** 10-12-2015, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowas

It all seems so simple now, now that I have the proper interpretive method to use.

Thanks Sean!

Rules to proper understanding symbolic vs. literal scripture:

1.) LITERAL: If it proceeds from the body
2.) SYMBOLIC: If it merely touches the body, but not proceeds from.

What a bunch of FOOLISHNESS !!!!

Bowas · #**194** 10-12-2015, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Did you notice that after you asked your question concerning the Sean's interpretive method, he blew a socket? He goes seven posts without making himself clear concerning his method of interpretation? Does anyone else notice this?

Yes. One thing he did not say, that I noticed anyway, was in deciding what might be literal or symbolic was from searching the scriptures themselves to see what they may say on the subject, which is why, I believe, his interpretive method gets so...so...interesting.

Bowas · #**195** 10-12-2015, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

I am glad that you preterists clearly saw the metaphors(lies) you have made up, regarding the book of Revelation, etc.

The personal attacks reveal that in particular

I hope you don't consider my posts as personal attacks. If so, I apologize as it is not intended to be personal.
It is what you propose that I ask questions about, but your views are not the real you, just views you have. (I think) lol

shazeep · #**196** 10-12-2015, 02:15 PM

It's just that no one really knows, Sean--these things are debated because they are mysteries.

Sean · #**197** 10-12-2015, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowas

I hope you don't consider my posts as personal attacks. If so, I apologize as it is not intended to be personal.
It is what you propose that I ask questions about, but your views are not the real you, just views you have. (I think) lol

No problem my friend, one question though.....are you saying I am a metaphor now?

Just kidding...LOL

houston · #**198** 10-12-2015, 02:46 PM

Metaphors were not signs, but now they are signs???

Mmkay.

Bowas · #**199** 10-12-2015, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Because a literal sword is depicted as physically coming out of His mouth.....

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and HE TREADETH THE WINEPRESS of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

But the winepress is not proceeding from any part of His body.

It may be an analogy, but what if God calls this bloodbath, "a winepress".

Thanks Bowas, I will call Gods' bloodbath of destroying wicked Gentiles, "the winepress" also.

You are awesome bro.!

Just want to make sure I am doing this right. Give me time, as this is kind of like learning how to ride a bike. Sometimes I might fall, but let's see if I am able to solo yet.

Rev. 19:11-16 says, "And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who SAT on him was called Faithful and True, and with righteousness He judges and makes war. His eyes were like a FLAME OF FIRE, and ON HIS HEAD WERE MANY CROWNS..

Ok. Here's my take on this passage. I may not be 100% right, but I think I am getting the hang of this.

The horse is not literal as He is just sitting ON it, kind of like the winepress, He was just standing in it.

The fire coming out His eyes are real fire, because they proceed from His body.

And the crowns are not literal as they too, just were ON His head.

I assume that is pretty close. I like it! You are right. It does change how one looks at the book of Revelation.

Thank you again, Sean.

Sean · #**200** 10-12-2015, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowas

Just want to make sure I am doing this right. Give me time, as this is kind of like learning how to ride a bike. Sometimes I might fall, but let's see if I am able to solo yet. Okay Bowas, lets do this

Rev. 19:11-16 says, "And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse.(real horse) And He who SAT on him(real rider) was called Faithful and True, and with righteousness He judges and makes war. His eyes(real eyes) were like(akin to) a FLAME OF FIRE, and ON HIS HEAD(real head) WERE MANY CROWNS(real crowns)..

The horse is not literal as He is just sitting ON it, kind of like the winepress, He was just standing in it.

There you go again, saying Jesus is standing in a wine vat. Do you think He is getting drunk too? Does it say Jesus was standing in a winepress? Do you see what......

these guys did to you?

The fire coming out His eyes are real fire, because they proceed from His body. It say LIKE A flame of fire, Bowas

And the crowns are not literal as they too, just were ON His head. Yes there are real, not fake or fictitious crowns.

I assume that is pretty close. I like it! You are right. It does change how one looks at the book of Revelation.

Thank you again, Sean.

No problem my brother, agree or not, I want to shake you of the way preterists taught you to mentally ridicule a passage, creating a way to justifiably change what it says in your mind.