Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?

Originally Posted by StMark

WHAAAAAT??? I didn't say anything about Drunks on
this thread! You are getting me mixed up with someone
else I've hardly gotten into this thread except for a few
post.

EASTMAM, I haven't had time to get with my brother about
that question you asked. been busy working on my taxes ( yes in
July lol). Look, if folks don't wanna believe in liberty in worship
and want to control the atmosphere and the people and have
dead church, let 'em be. plain and simple as that

What you call dead, some folks call reverence......
What you call plain and simple... some folks call respect for the house of God and keeping their foot in the house of God

Originally Posted by StMark

WHAAAAAT??? I didn't say anything about Drunks on
this thread! You are getting me mixed up with someone
else I've hardly gotten into this thread except for a few
post.

EASTMAM, I haven't had time to get with my brother about
that question you asked. been busy working on my taxes ( yes in
July lol). Look, if folks don't wanna believe in liberty in worship
and want to control the atmosphere and the people and have
dead church, let 'em be. plain and simple as that

Oh no brother.. can't let you slide out of that one... you said when I responded to Eastman about him trying to use the "not drunk as you suppose" crutch... when I told him that I have proven by the scriptures MANY TIMES that the drunk statement had NOTHING to do with emotional pentecostal outburst...

your response was - AMAZING, YOU HAVE PROVEN NOTHING... so yes you were in on the DRUNK argument

So again I challenge you.. prove to me that when the onlookers mentioned their being drunk... prove with the verses that they were referring to something beside their ability to break the language barrier

[StMark]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

What you call dead, some folks call reverence......
What you call plain and simple... some folks call respect for the house of God and keeping their foot in the house of God

I believe in respect and reverance. Rejocing in the Lord
doesn't diminish either of those. There's a time and
place for all things.

Originally Posted by StMark

I believe in respect and reverance. Rejocing in the Lord
doesn't diminish either of those. There's a time and
place for all things.

Rejoicing in the Lord is wonderful,, I do it every service.....

Jerking uncontrollably... screaming wildley.. .shouting with no control,,,,, are not example of Rejoicing.. their examples of "being overtaken"

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Oh Brother.. correction.. what few scriptures have you given me?

Tell you what.. list them in a row in your reply,, it will be interesting to see

I actually gave two scriptures to your NONE

You haven't given me any scriptures doc, where have you posted a scripture to me? I find it amazing that you call yourself a doctor and yet you seem to lack any sensibilities when it comes to experience. Are you denying the Holy Ghost? Have you even experienced the Holy Ghost? So far your arguments are falling on deaf ears to the 80% of the people here who have experience. Do you put us in hell for shouting, dancing, and praising God the way we do? If not, you don't have an argument to stand on, because quite frankly you are twisting scripture to suit you. I will say it again, my experience and my adoration for God trumps your argument. The only thing I see that comes from you is your contempt for the Pentecostal experience, which to me is quite judgemental on your part. Carry on Doctor........er umm.... MR. Vaughn.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

ST MATT... it is not just my opinion,,, some of the greatest denominations in history agree with me.. .along with Spurgeon, Moody and on and on the list goes.. you act like my reasoning stands alone and it DOES NOT.....

I tell you what ST MARK.. in context you put the drunk scriptures up here along with the 5 or 6 before it and lets see what the drunk statement was in reference to.... peoples worship or SPEAKING IN TONGUES........ lets put the rubber on the road brother.... when its over the facts will speak for themselves.. the DRUNK STATEMENT had NOTHING TO DO with emotions.... for lack of knowing what was going on....... :Man, this must be some new wine,,, something has caused them to speak to us in our langauges.. what could it be"""""""" had NOTHING to do with the fact they say people doing the PENTECOSTAL JERK or the PENTECOSTAL RUNNINg... I DARE YOU TO PROVE IT.. prove to the reader that they were in reference to the peoples PRAISE and WORSHIP........

That's your problem Mr. Vaughn, some of the greatest denominations that agree with you do not have the Holy Ghost, nor did they teach or preach that anyone should get the Holy Ghost because they did not EXPERIENCE the Holy Ghost according to the book of Acts. Spurgeon, Moody, and the others that you mention do not have the necessary credibilty to say that we as Pentecostals are wrong in the way we worship. Your issue seems to be because the "Pentecostals" shout and worship in such an exuberant way, that we are growing much faster than your dead dry boring churches. I personally have nothing against the way you worship; however, neither do I have issue with the way Pentecostals worship. I understand that you are at a different level of worship, and because you continue to fail in proving scripturally that we are wrong, perhaps you should stir the pot somewhere else.

So,,, you will not list the scriptures that you DECLARE you have given to me?

Thanks

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by StMark

WHAAAAAT??? I didn't say anything about Drunks on
this thread! You are getting me mixed up with someone
else I've hardly gotten into this thread except for a few
post.

EASTMAM, I haven't had time to get with my brother about
that question you asked. been busy working on my taxes ( yes in
July lol). Look, if folks don't wanna believe in liberty in worship
and want to control the atmosphere and the people and have
dead church, let 'em be. plain and simple as that

Mark, you can't have your own opinion? Why do you need your Brother?

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

ST MATT... it is not just my opinion,,, some of the greatest denominations in history agree with me.. .along with Spurgeon, Moody and on and on the list goes.. you act like my reasoning stands alone and it DOES NOT.....

I tell you what ST MARK.. in context you put the drunk scriptures up here along with the 5 or 6 before it and lets see what the drunk statement was in reference to.... peoples worship or SPEAKING IN TONGUES........ lets put the rubber on the road brother.... when its over the facts will speak for themselves.. the DRUNK STATEMENT had NOTHING TO DO with emotions.... for lack of knowing what was going on....... :Man, this must be some new wine,,, something has caused them to speak to us in our langauges.. what could it be"""""""" had NOTHING to do with the fact they say people doing the PENTECOSTAL JERK or the PENTECOSTAL RUNNINg... I DARE YOU TO PROVE IT.. prove to the reader that they were in reference to the peoples PRAISE and WORSHIP........

Actually it was StMatthew that made that comment to you Mr. Vaughn, not StMark. Get it straight Sir.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Yes, yield to God.. so he can Spin you like a top... run you like a rag doll.... throw you in the floor.. give you convulsions.... make you stomp your shoes off.....

Funny God never did any of these things in his WORD.. but hey they have an experience... so it doesn't matter what the WORD says

You haven't given any WORD.