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tv1a · #1 06-22-2010, 05:55 PM

Just came across an e-mail I got a couple years ago from a "concerned" upc woman. This is the mindset of the legalistic group.

I almost feel sorry for this loser.

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Subject: I'm praying for you
(My Name),

I have been very troubled since I seen you and your family at parkersburg. If you all are doing as the pastor says and are letting down on our old landmarks which are still very important, then God help you all.
I have never understood how you can believe in seperation from the world and then a man can come in your life and preach something totally out of the will of God and you can follow so easily. I could not believe my eyes when I seen (my wife's name) and your daughter in pants and their hair cut. my spirit grieved and has continued to do so every since. I only have one more thing to say, I am not trying to be critical but you all know the full truth , when you made the comment to me "we had 50 young people and they are coming from far off, my comment is, Troy it's not hard to get a crowd when you are the same as the next church, but the word of God says be seperate from the world, you are in this world not of this world, you can't stand out and be different dressing like everyone else. I know you can have standard and not make it to heaven with a rotten attitude, but it takes seperation and a clean heart. I really am not trying to be offensive, but I believe you need to wake up, the bible talks about a great falling away, please follow the word of God, not the man.

I really am very concerned
(signed by preacher's wife)

Mirth1981 · #2 06-22-2010, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tv1a

Just came across an e-mail I got a couple years ago from a "concerned" upc woman. This is the mindset of the legalistic group.

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Originally Posted by Letter from Preacher's Wife

Subject: I'm praying for you
(My Name),

I have been very troubled since I seen you and your family at parkersburg. If you all are doing as the pastor says and are letting down on our old landmarks which are still very important, then God help you all.
I have never understood how you can believe in seperation from the world and then a man can come in your life and preach something totally out of the will of God and you can follow so easily. I could not believe my eyes when I seen (my wife's name) and your daughter in pants and their hair cut. my spirit grieved and has continued to do so every since. I only have one more thing to say, I am not trying to be critical but you all know the full truth , when you made the comment to me "we had 50 young people and they are coming from far off, my comment is, Troy it's not hard to get a crowd when you are the same as the next church, but the word of God says be seperate from the world, you are in this world not of this world, you can't stand out and be different dressing like everyone else. I know you can have standard and not make it to heaven with a rotten attitude, but it takes seperation and a clean heart. I really am not trying to be offensive, but I believe you need to wake up, the bible talks about a great falling away, please follow the word of God, not the man.

I really am very concerned
(signed by preacher's wife)

I almost feel sorry for this loser.

I do feel sorry for whoever wrote this letter. If she ever comes to the realization that her "holiness standards" are not in the Bible, she is going to feel awfully foolish, isn't she?

JoeHardy07 · #3 06-23-2010, 12:09 PM

She may find a lot of things that she thinks she know are not there.

Falla39 · #4 06-23-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeHardy07

She may find a lot of things that she thinks she know are not there.

Just because some people cannot see them, doesn't mean
they are not there.

Luke 10:23-24

23 Turning to the disciples, He said privately, “Blessed are the eyes which see the things you see, 24 for I say to you, that many prophets and kings wished to see the things which you see, and did not see them, and to hear the things which you hear, and did not hear them.”

Falla39

Falla39 · #5 06-23-2010, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tv1a

Just came across an e-mail I got a couple years ago from a "concerned" upc woman. This is the mindset of the legalistic group.

I almost feel sorry for this loser.

What an unkind thing to say! I honestly feel this person
was very sincere in her concern! In my opinion she is NOT
a loser. Why did you feel you needed to add she was a upc
woman.

Falla39

RandyWayne · #6 06-29-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Falla39

What an unkind thing to say! I honestly feel this person
was very sincere in her concern! In my opinion she is NOT
a loser. Why did you feel you needed to add she was a upc
woman.

Falla39

I do agree that the word "loser" was not called for and that she WAS completely sincere in her apparent angst, but it was sad because it showed the trapped mindset she was in. Apparently souls were not as important as "The Manual" or "The Look" in her mind. It has been decades but I remember feeling the same things she did at one time when a woman who loved God but wore pants (and did far more than any of US for His kingdom) was worse then the sinner who spat in His face.

JoeHardy07 · #7 06-29-2010, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I do agree that the word "loser" was not called for and that she WAS completely sincere in her apparent angst, but it was sad because it showed the trapped mindset she was in. Apparently souls were not as important as "The Manual" or "The Look" in her mind. It has been decades but I remember feeling the same things she did at one time when a woman who loved God but wore pants (and did far more than any of US for His kingdom) was worse then the sinner who spat in His face.

Tastes like chicken!

faithit166 · #8 07-22-2010, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Falla39

What an unkind thing to say! I honestly feel this person
was very sincere in her concern! In my opinion she is NOT
a loser. Why did you feel you needed to add she was a upc
woman.

Falla39

i agree with falla i truly feel this woman was very sincere in her concern,

Godsdrummer · #9 06-30-2010, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tv1a

Just came across an e-mail I got a couple years ago from a "concerned" upc woman. This is the mindset of the legalistic group.

I almost feel sorry for this loser.

The loser is you if that is the attitude you have towards another child of God.

I have a couple of things to say cocerning this, and I say it in love. REPENT YOU SINNERS !!!

Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Rom 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
Rom 14:3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

If any should understand the mind set of those that are legalistic it should be us that have come out of legalism. Paul tells us explicitly not to despise those that put unnecisary restrictions over their life.

And John reminds us that we are to love one another.

1Jn 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
1Jn 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
1Jn 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

Paul gives us a good description of Love and how we should act if we have love.

1Co 13:4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
1Co 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
1Co 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

Jesus tells us to love as he loved us, how was that? He gave his life for us!

Joh 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
Joh 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

Contrary to popular opinion we are not known by our clothes but by our love one for another. If we have not love we are not his.

Check your attitude.

tv1a · #10 06-30-2010, 08:59 PM

I don't despise anyone with conservative personal convictions. Scriptures says personal convictions become witchcraft when forced on other people.

If they want to repent of their witchcraft, we'll be pals. If not, they are on the wrong side of God.

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Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

The loser is you if that is the attitude you have towards another child of God.

I have a couple of things to say cocerning this, and I say it in love. REPENT YOU SINNERS !!!

Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Rom 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
Rom 14:3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

If any should understand the mind set of those that are legalistic it should be us that have come out of legalism. Paul tells us explicitly not to despise those that put unnecisary restrictions over their life.

And John reminds us that we are to love one another.

1Jn 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
1Jn 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
1Jn 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

Paul gives us a good description of Love and how we should act if we have love.

1Co 13:4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
1Co 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
1Co 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

Jesus tells us to love as he loved us, how was that? He gave his life for us!

Joh 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
Joh 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

Contrary to popular opinion we are not known by our clothes but by our love one for another. If we have not love we are not his.

Check your attitude.