Planned Parenthood Plans 40 Days of Prayer (L)

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

79% do not support the current abortion-on-demand policy, saying abortion should be legal only in some circumstances (68%), or illegal in all circumstances (11%).
Marist Poll, December 2011

http://www.mccl.org/Page.aspx?pid=400

But they support it in some form... which is all it takes to keep it legal, KWIM?

If we could cohere those with objections into a group who is willing to say that something more reasonable is worth fighting for rather than 100 bazillion splinter groups whose opinions run the full gamut... Something might actually get DONE. But to do that Christians have to stop seeing any other position than fetal life trumps every other life once it's started as a spiritual compromise... Because that is obviously not just stalemate but checkmate for the other side. To put it in the simplest terms- If you do what you did, you get what you got.

[Titus2woman]

About stem cells. Now that cord blood and even menstrual blood can be used to harvest stem cells there would not be a market for fetuses for this purpose.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by jfrog

That is probably the worst prooftext for anything that I have ever seen

Of course I knew you would find something wrong with the scripture reference I gave you as you would find fault with any scripture reference I would give to you.

Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. Jeremiah 1:5


Perhaps you should prove to me that this particular scripture passage doesn't mean life begins at conception. If God knew Jeremiah before he was in the womb, then sanctified Jeremiah as a prophet to the nations before he came out of the womb, how then can Jeremiah not be a human in the womb from the very beginning in God's intent?

If you can imply that a human is like the yolk of a chicken egg before 12 gestational weeks, then I can interpret that God knew Jeremiah before he was even formed in the belly. God knew Jeremiah when he was conceived and developing in the womb and God can ordain Jeremiah to be a prophet while yet a "fetus".

Since physicians proved that even embryos are human, since government studies declared embryos are human and should be given the same protection as humans, then why can't you?

Bet you didn't even watch the Silent Scream video and how that baby was sucking it's thumb and trying to move away from the pain stimulus the suction tube was creating for the baby before it snuffed out it's life.

However, once again you want to split hairs on God forbidding the shedding of innocent blood by continuing to spew out that a developing baby is not a human and that mindset is just garbage.

God can decide which one of us is correct on judgment day. I just pray that you quit fooling yourself.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Yet it becomes clear that when you insert "abortion" anywhere into the equation, God's plan is subverted; hmm...

Do you think God doesn't know which babies will be aborted? What makes you so sure he foreknows the ones that will be aborted as anything other than a potential human being?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Of course I knew you would find something wrong with the scripture reference I gave you as you would find fault with any scripture reference I would give to you.

Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. Jeremiah 1:5


Perhaps you should prove to me that this particular scripture passage doesn't mean life begins at conception. If God knew Jeremiah before he was in the womb, then sanctified Jeremiah as a prophet to the nations before he came out of the womb, how then can Jeremiah not be a human in the womb from the very beginning in God's intent?

If you can imply that a human is like the yolk of a chicken egg before 12 gestational weeks, then I can interpret that God knew Jeremiah before he was even formed in the belly. God knew Jeremiah when he was conceived and developing in the womb and God can ordain Jeremiah to be a prophet while yet a "fetus".

If God knowing Jeremiah before he was in the womb implies he was a human being while in the womb then it also implies that Jeremiah was also a human being before he entered the womb.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Do you think God doesn't know which babies will be aborted? What makes you so sure he foreknows the ones that will be aborted as anything other than a potential human being?

Poor frog, so delusional.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Poor frog, so delusional.

I didn't know it was delusional to want scriptural proof for something God has said.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by jfrog

If God knowing Jeremiah before he was in the womb implies he was a human being while in the womb then it also implies that Jeremiah was also a human being before he entered the womb.

There is no implication here frog. I never even said implication. I said that I can interpret this scripture in context to what it says. God said He knew Jeremiah before he formed him in the belly. God said He ordained him as a prophet to the nations. NO implications. Are we human beings after we die? No we become spirits because there is no flesh and blood. There is flesh and blood in the womb and that makes one human. The only implication here is that God knew Jeremiah's spirit before he was formed in the belly.

Did you watch the Silent Scream video?

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Do you think God doesn't know which babies will be aborted? What makes you so sure he foreknows the ones that will be aborted as anything other than a potential human being?

Making suppositions about what God knows or what God thinks is treading on dangerous ground, imho.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Making suppositions about what God knows or what God thinks is treading on dangerous ground, imho.

Which is why I have been trying to get you to stop doing that.