Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Esaias

And now you aren't making ANY sense whatsoever.

I disagree, I believe I make perfect sense.

Peace in the name of Yeshua.

[Esaias]

What drives the world nuts and makes them angry: hearing "Yeshua"? Or JESUS?

Where's the big revival since the "true" name got revealed?

And when will you guys start wearing yarmulkas?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

I disagree, I believe I make perfect sense.

Peace in the name of Yeshua.

Of course you think you do. Unfortunately, you don't.

THERE IS NOT ONE SCRIPTURE WHERE GENTILES WERE TAUGHT TO USE YESHUA INSTEAD OF IESOUS.

IN FACT THERE IS NOT ONE SCRIPTURE WHATSOEVER CALLING THE MESSIAH "YESHUA".

Not one.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

What drives the world nuts and makes them angry: hearing "Yeshua"? Or JESUS?

Where's the big revival since the "true" name got revealed?

And when will you guys start wearing yarmulkas?

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Is Hadassah in the OT? Is Yeshua in the NT?

Is Hadassah in the OT? Yes she is. that was her birth name.

Is Yeshua in the NT? Yes he is. that is his birth name.

Yah Shua = Yah is Salvation

Yah = Contraction of Yahweh = Name of the Father

Shua = Salvation

"I have come in my father's name"

YahShua = Yeshua (Derivative)

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Of course you think you do. Unfortunately, you don't.

THERE IS NOT ONE SCRIPTURE WHERE GENTILES WERE TAUGHT TO USE YESHUA INSTEAD OF IESOUS.

IN FACT THERE IS NOT ONE SCRIPTURE WHATSOEVER CALLING THE MESSIAH "YESHUA".

Not one.

THERE IS NOT ONE SCRIPTURE WHERE GENTILES WERE TAUGHT TO KEEP THE SABBATH INSTEAD OF SUNDAY.

IN FACT THERE IS NOT ONE SCRIPTURE WHATSOEVER CALLING FOR KEEPING "THE SABBATH".

Not one.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Is Hadassah in the OT? Yes she is. that was her birth name.

Is Yeshua in the NT? Yes he is. that is his birth name.

Yah Shua = Yah is Salvation

Yah = Contraction of Yahweh = Name of the Father

Shua = Salvation

"I have come in my father's name"

YahShua = Yeshua (Derivative)

My friend and brother, please tell us why His name isn't Yehoshua Nehemiah 8:17, and Hebrews 4:8? Also why is Nicodemus (a religious leader during the time of Jesus) have an Ancient Greek name? Could you show us his Hebrew only name? Also Yohannan Marcus known to us as John Mark? What's up with the Aramaic Latin name? Please please explain how can we believe the Bible is reliable if it was so Hellenized to hide the original name "sacred name" of our savior? If they banged up the name of the savior, what else did they step on so much to mistranslate its message to us in the 21st century?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Is Hadassah in the OT? Yes she is. that was her birth name.

Ishtar, Esther, goddess of the star. Now, Mordicai (a pious Judean) refuses to bow to a pagan administrator? But has no issue with a name which means worshipper of Marduk? Actually one who lays prostrate before Marduk? Why were these two pious Judeans ok with these totally Babylonian god worshipping names?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

THERE IS NOT ONE SCRIPTURE WHERE GENTILES WERE TAUGHT TO KEEP THE SABBATH INSTEAD OF SUNDAY.

IN FACT THERE IS NOT ONE SCRIPTURE WHATSOEVER CALLING FOR KEEPING "THE SABBATH".

Not one.

Exactly. Not one.

[Michael The Disciple]

Dom said,

Please please explain how can we believe the Bible is reliable if it was so Hellenized to hide the original name "sacred name" of our savior? If they banged up the name of the savior, what else did they step on so much to mistranslate its message to us in the 21st century?

It was not trying to hide the name. The issue is we feel it is more accurate if it was transliterated from the Hebrew instead of from the Greek. Transliterating from the Greek takes us a step farther from the true name.

Having said that it is certainly not sinful to call the Lord "Jesus". Neither must one "know Hebrew" to walk with God. But if one's love for the Lord and truth leads them to seek more accurate knowledge of the Lord and his name good for them!

By the way, you have the same problem with the Bible as we do. You seem to think the Bible is more perfect if one used Iesous or Jesus. And yet....it is common knowledge the "s" at the end is merely there as a part of conforming it to the Greek language. It is added by men. Yet who cares? Is that the way we should approach the name of the Lord?

Bottom line. I understand the complexities of the issue. Thats why I do not spend my time railing on the name Jesus. Why would I? It is more of a translation issue than a doctrinal one. It is important to me but not salvational.

I am not "angry" when someone uses a version of the name in their own language. Nonetheless I am "happy" when I hear the Hebrew/Aramaic being used. My preference and the other persons.

Why should it always be attacked and belittled among "Apostolics" who pride themselves on having more truth than the other guy?