Will drinking beer send you to hell?

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by coksiw

What makes you think you you have settled this issue once and for all? Hold my beer....

I know. If it were only that easy. Right?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Ferd

not drinking wine meant dying of some version of dysentery or cholera.

I challenge this assertion and ask for some documentation of this claim.

Meanwhile, the Bible says this about the origin and purpose of wine:

Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty. Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain: Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind: Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire: Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever. Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains. At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away. They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them. Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth. He sendeth the springs into the valleys, which run among the hills. They give drink to every beast of the field: the wild asses quench their thirst. By them shall the fowls of the heaven have their habitation, which sing among the branches. He watereth the hills from his chambers: the earth is satisfied with the fruit of thy works. He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.
(Psa 104:1-15)

Nothing about preventing dysentery.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I challenge this assertion and ask for some documentation of this claim.

Meanwhile, the Bible says this about the origin and purpose of wine:

Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty. Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain: Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind: Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire: Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever. Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains. At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away. They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them. Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth. He sendeth the springs into the valleys, which run among the hills. They give drink to every beast of the field: the wild asses quench their thirst. By them shall the fowls of the heaven have their habitation, which sing among the branches. He watereth the hills from his chambers: the earth is satisfied with the fruit of thy works. He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.
(Psa 104:1-15)

Nothing about preventing dysentery.

Almost like God WANTED man to be occasionally happy or something....naaah that cant be it...must have meant grape juice.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

Almost like God WANTED man to be occasionally happy or something....naaah that cant be it...must have meant grape juice.

Are you saying that one must drink to be happy?

[Nicodemus1968]

What does wine represent in the Bible?

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Jito463

Are you saying that one must drink to be happy?

Sounds like it

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Jito463

Are you saying that one must drink to be happy?

No answer? I'm really interested in what you meant by that.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Jito463

Are you saying that one must drink to be happy?

What? Of course not. Thats your words not mine and a horrible false equivalency.


I merely pointed out that the Bible seems to point out that God makes things that provide paths to happiness in the heart of men.


Whats your problem with the verse?


Do you disagree with the words or their intent used by their creator?


Lord help us to not become so moral and self righteous that we call a creation that God called good, evil.


And no...I dont drink. No dog in this fight other than talking about your particular triggering to me pointing out that the Bible doesnt seem to 100% support the local party line of The Temperance Movement.

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I challenge this assertion and ask for some documentation of this claim.

Meanwhile, the Bible says this about the origin and purpose of wine:

Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty. Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain: Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind: Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire: Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever. Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains. At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away. They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them. Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth. He sendeth the springs into the valleys, which run among the hills. They give drink to every beast of the field: the wild asses quench their thirst. By them shall the fowls of the heaven have their habitation, which sing among the branches. He watereth the hills from his chambers: the earth is satisfied with the fruit of thy works. He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.
(Psa 104:1-15)

Nothing about preventing dysentery.

So intoxication is not sin?!

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by consapente89

So intoxication is not sin?!

Please show how the passage I quoted says or implies that "intoxication is not sin."