If this is true then Peter's response makes no sense whatsoever. This is what they should have said instead of what's actually written:
Their hearts were pricked and they said "Glory, we're saved! Now what must we do?" And Peter said, " And now that you're saved and your sins are remitted by faith in Christ, we must bury you in the likeness of Christ's death by water baptism and you can receive a second blessing of being baptized in Holy Spirit"
I have been wrestling with this for two weeks now. If they were already saved, why were they instructed to repent?
If this is true then Peter's response makes no sense whatsoever. This is what they should have said instead of what's actually written:
Their hearts were pricked and they said "Glory, we're saved! Now what must we do?" And Peter said, " And now that you're saved and your sins are remitted by faith in Christ, we must bury you in the likeness of Christ's death by water baptism and you can receive a second blessing of being baptized in Holy Spirit"
Sounds good to me
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Sam also known as Jim Ellis
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Interesting series of exchanges.I have not read everything so I may have missed it. If I did, sorry, here it is again:
If one is willing to read Acts chapter 2 line by line, word by word, he/she will discover that in Acts 2:37 the people were not asking, "What shall we do to be saved?" They were asking, "Being saved, now what do we do?"
Doctrine hits scriptural reality.
I've read it line by line and word by word more times than I can count, and sorry. I just don't see that.
My pots not stirred and I ain't mad at nobody, but that just isn't there and that is a view point I will just not accept myself, so for me there isn't any point in discussing it other than to make what I see known. Call me a three-stepper if you want.
Interesting series of exchanges.I have not read everything so I may have missed it. If I did, sorry, here it is again:
If one is willing to read Acts chapter 2 line by line, word by word, he/she will discover that in Acts 2:37 the people were not asking, "What shall we do to be saved?" They were asking, "Being saved, now what do we do?"
Doctrine hits scriptural reality.
In what Bible?
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Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
And if Acts 2:38 was the only scripture, then I suppose we could call it "Stand Alone". But we in addition have Phillip in Samaria, Cornelius and Peter, Paul and the disciples at Ephesus, all in the Only book that shows how it was done.
Yeah, it is good to examine. But at some point one must reach a point of understanding that "Thsi is what it is".
Too much examination and people start seeing things that aren't there, second guessing themselves, and listening to their interpretations rather than the witness and confirmation of the Holy Ghost.
I didn't get the revelation of Oneness and Jesus name from the UPC. I got it from the Word of God. That is why I won't be moved from it. I have been criticized for my intolerance to this viewpoint on the GNC and am a-ok with that.
And I also understand that you guys won't be moved either. Thus I gracefully bow out of this discussion.
And if Acts 2:38 was the only scripture, then I suppose we could call it "Stand Alone". But we in addition have Phillip in Samaria, Cornelius and Peter, Paul and the disciples at Ephesus, all in the Only book that shows how it was done.
Yeah, it is good to examine. But at some point one must reach a point of understanding that "Thsi is what it is".
Too much examination and people start seeing things that aren't there, second guessing themselves, and listening to their interpretations rather than the witness and confirmation of the Holy Ghost.
I didn't get the revelation of Oneness and Jesus name from the UPC. I got it from the Word of God. That is why I won't be moved from it. I have been criticized for my intolerance to this viewpoint on the GNC and am a-ok with that.
And I also understand that you guys won't be moved either. Thus I gracefully bow out of this discussion.
God Bless!
Amazing how THIS is THAT gets to be an obfucation of what "is" actually is.
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There are at least five references to believing unto being salvation (being saved). Perhaps we should go back and rediscover exactly what it is Jesus and the apostles were talking about before making up any more church based teachings.
Or teachings based on Trinitarian Traditions. I agree.
It has been a long time since we shared a thread together.
I pray all is well with you.
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Everything is going well, and I pray the same for you!
HOW NICE!!!!
While the two of you are bestowing blessings and heavenly felicities upon each of yourselves, I would like to remind the "Rabbi" that Jesus never did say, "He that believeth and is SAVED shall be baptized." Some of you folk seem to think that is what it reads.