How Many "3 Steppers" Do We Have On Aff???

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Caston Smith

Well, for instance if men wear bright crimson red dress shirts; the blood of Jesus Christ is crimson red and we know this from the song written by the PAW Pioneer G. T Haywood "I See A Crimson Stream of Blood", and they are throwing off on the blood ... wouldn't you think?

HAHAHA LOL....yeah, what would we do with out that song. Some of us might never have known blood is red.

So why can't we wear red? Yes Jesus bled. Yes blood is red....but WHY can't we wear red?

Another color men should not wear is purple because in Revelation it said the mother harlot had scarlet array. Also the robe Jesus Christ wore before His crucifixion, they mocked Him with a purple robe. So men should refrain from wearing especially those two colors ...

Uh...HAHAHAHAHAAAAAA. Seriously now...Caston. Let's be serious for a moment....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA. Please Caston....PLEASE tell us you are kidding.

Pink, is definitely too feminine that's totally out of the question.

Can women wear pink? Or perhaps that might elicit the lustful passions of the men folk.

Me should ONLY wear white dress shirts to church because white is the symbol of purity.

What is black the symbol of?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Caston Smith

II Thessalonians 2:15
Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

There's nothing wrong with traditions as long as they aren't sinful in nature. I believe we have picked up a lot of good things from different ones in church history.

John Wesley for instance ... he preached the message of Holiness and sanctification.

John Calvin-justification by faith. All though I do not adhere to the "alone" part of his teaching, because I believe if one has genuine faith it will produce works (i.e. repentance, water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins etc)

So as you can see there's nothing wrong with holding traditions that are not sinful in nature ...

The Traditions Paul was talking about was the Apostolic teaching, not extra biblical doctrines of men.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by pelathais

"throwing off on the blood" ??? I don't know what that phrase means.

Wearing a red shirt is wrong, and GT Haywood is called upon to support this? Nah.

I'm not flashy enough to wear a bright red dress shirt myself, but I would need some sort of Scriptural justification before I tell someone else what to wear or not to wear.


Why?
I don't go for the pink myself, but I have to admidt that it's just my preference and not anything from the Bible.

Yet the Apostles of the 1st Century did not restrict themselves to only white tunics, etc. White is symbolic (as most every color is), but to put ones self into the position of telling other people what to wear and not to wear without any real Biblical support seems to me to be a bit presumptuous.

I'm afraid because of the words that I speak in a Bible study, sermon or whenever I'm putting myself out there as speaking for the things of God. I would not add to or take away from what's written in the Book.

I don't care for pink either, especially sweater....reminds me of those poodles you see queens carrying around....

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I don't care for pink either, especially sweater....reminds me of those poodles you see queens carrying around....

You mean like Queen Elizabeth of the U.K. or Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands? Right?

[Scott Hutchinson]

I've got the Holy Ghost and I have worn a pink dress shirt before.And no I'm not gay either.

[Scott Hutchinson]

I haven't read all of these posts ,but I believe it is God's will for all people to repent ,and be baptized in Jesus name and get baptized with the Holy Ghost with accompanying sign of speaking in tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance.
At repentance a sincere penetant person who places faith in Christ ,receives forgiveness of sins,then after this they can receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost,and receive proper Christian water baptism.
Since this was preached at the beginning of the Christian faith it should be followed by all now.
I understand in the early church Jesus Name baptism was considered a rite of passage and it is a command of Jesus Christ Mark.16:16
Of course following conversion a life of sanctification should be the disciple of Christ's lifestyle.

[Truly Blessed]

Salvation is a process that continues until we arrive in heaven. Regeneration is an an experience that is instantaneous and happens the moment we believe the gospel. It is this experience that is the genesis of our relationship with and walk with God.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Adino

LOL... hey, Steve, good to see you.

I'll tell you once again, since I know that southern water might be messing with your memory.... faith takes place in repentance.

It is the heart returning to God (repenting) which takes the path of faith in Christ. Repent and convert (believe) that your sins may be blotted out (Acts 3:19). The New Testament message was one of repentance and faith (Acts 20:21; Hebrews 6:1; Mark 1:15).

The message isn't only that we are depraved and should return to God humble and remorse. It is that we who are humble and remorse should return to God through Christ. The repenting heart can only fully return to God upon hearing the Gospel and trusting in Christ.

God revives the heart of those who have a humble and contrite spirit.

Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

God revives the heart of the humble and contrite ones (i.e., of the repenting ones) by his word. The repentant heart is born again of the word/Gospel (1Peter1:23). When the Gospel is presented to a humbled and contrite heart it will be quickened to faith thus completing the return to God.

The contrite heart is revived.... it is made alive.... it is born again of the word.

Faith comes by hearing the word (Romans 10:17). The repenting heart that believes in the Gospel is passed from death unto life and is born of God (John 5:24; 11:25; 1John 5:1; John 1:12-13; 1Peter 1:23).

Adino the dodger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AGAIN does regeneration takes place BEFORE and APART of repentance?
Certainly repentance is the New Testament message no argument there it is ALWAYS accompanied with baptism. The SAME faith that works repentance also works baptism and receiving the HGB. Heb.11:6
Faith is DOING what God says believing He will do what He says. Again I enjoy fussing with you. I may come that way to visit my friends if I do I will contact you.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Adino the dodger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AGAIN does regeneration takes place BEFORE and APART of repentance?
Certainly repentance is the New Testament message no argument there it is ALWAYS accompanied with baptism. The SAME faith that works repentance also works baptism and receiving the HGB. Heb.11:6
Faith is DOING what God says believing He will do what He says. Again I enjoy fussing with you. I may come that way to visit my friends if I do I will contact you.

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Wow ... Elder even when you guys are given THE ANSWER ... IT'S NOT ENOUGH ...

Adino said:

faith takes place in repentance.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

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Wow ... Elder even when you guys are given THE ANSWER ... IT'S NOT ENOUGH ...

Adino said:

I know Adino said faith takes place at repentance, he certainly believes that. That was NOT the question and Adino is a very smart guy and he knows the question I was asking and he is hedging like you do. AGAIN does regeneration take place BEFORE and APART from repentance.
Faith is the driving force of all we do to please God, repentance-baptism-HGB-walking with Him IT IS A PROCESS to quote TB.