Are You Eliminating Debt/Backstocking Food?

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Bugs, that's just added protein...........

LOL... this is true... yet not desirable for most when they have an opportunity to control the "protein" level.

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

I'll go one step further...

Not only should I not do anything I do in obedience to the Word in anxiety. But my rest and my trust should come from the fact that I was obedient to Him.

If I take rest in what I have put away and the plans I have made then I am a fool.

It is still God who preserves us. We need only read and heed His word to the best of our ability and He will take care of the rest.

I agreed with the earlier post and thought it was very sensible. However, this one seems to step over the line of what is reasonable, as far as I am personally concerned.

If I see a boulder about ready to drop on me, I will continue to believe that God can preserve me as I heed His Word, but, I will move out of the way as fast as my two feet can carry me.

I believe God gives us sense enough to do the best we can for ourselves...all the while reading, heeding, trusting in His ability to take care of the rest.

[Theresa]

here's a plan....

stock up on can goods
stock up on non perishables

what happens if this national emergency involved the loss of power?

how would you prepare these items?

I'm just saying...


I think we should be good stewards of what we have, no matter how little it is....

God is faithful..he will take care of his children - we may not like it or it be what we would choose, but He wont leave us alone.

Eliminating debt - I think as Christians we shouldnt have excessive debt - not debt we acquired b/c we couldnt live within our means...I understand unexpected debt - medical bills, loss of income so you lose your ability to stay current on your car and house payments...etc..

but debt for "disposable" income spending - irresponsible. IMO

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

I agreed with the earlier post and thought it was very sensible. However, this one seems to step over the line of what is reasonable, as far as I am personally concerned.

If I see a boulder about ready to drop on me, I will continue to believe that God can preserve me as I heed His Word, but, I will move out of the way as fast as my two feet can carry me.

I believe God gives us sense enough to do the best we can for ourselves...all the while reading, heeding, trusting in His ability to take care of the rest.

If you still disagree with me after this post... no problem... But I think I have been misunderstood on this one.

What I was saying is that... even though I am putting up things because of what I see coming... it is not in my stockpile that I put my trust in. My trust is still in the Lord...

If I have solar panels they can break.
If I have food set aside... things can happen to it.
If I have money set aside... currency can lose all value.

So.. I do what I feel I need to do. I stock pile, I save, I cut back... but, in the end, my trust is not in those things.

In the end... with all of my advance preparations it is the Lord that will be our help.

[Theresa]

I think there is a difference in "stockpiling" for the sake of hording for a national emergency...and being prudent and preparing for lean times.

having solar panels is equal to having batteries for your flashlights in the event of a blackout - it just make sense. Do you put all your hope in the use of solar energy? Of course not.

Saving cash, sure a nominal amount might be wise in the event other means were eliminated but then again there is the risk our money would be useless. Too much of any one practice is silly and unwise.

Setting aside food - well to an extent its wise, if you cross the line it becomes wasteful. What if you have no means to prepare it? What if some event wiped out your stash? You really can't prepare to well for an unknown event. And large scale attempt is wasteful and irresponsible.

You can only prepare for your reaction to such an event.

Prayer and remaining faithful to God is the only true preparation we can participate in. God is faithful to take care of his Children. He will provide either your needs or He will give you guidance and strength to survive. And if you dont, well, you have to accept it as his Will. IMO

[Digging4Truth]

On the issue of people having a stockpile of food and then all of a sudden realizing... I have no way to cook this...

People are generally wise enough to think these things through. There is, I am sure, the occasional exception but I would imagine in a time of no groceries in the grocery store one could barter the use of a propane stove for a good meal.

[Theresa]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

On the issue of people having a stockpile of food and then all of a sudden realizing... I have no way to cook this...

People are generally wise enough to think these things through. There is, I am sure, the occasional exception but I would imagine in a time of no groceries in the grocery store one could barter the use of a propane stove for a good meal.

I've always wondered why people buy bread, water and milk when they predict an ice storm. water I can understand b/c you need water if pipes burst etc....

but I'm talking about getting milk and bread that you probably wont use. Its just the first things gone off the shelves....

I wonder how many gallons of milk go bad b/c folks hoard it?

If they set it outside its just going to freeze should they lose power.

as will anything you purchase to make sandwiches.

what are you going to do?

Speaking of....

What do you do?

i'd like to hear what preparations folks make for ice storms or other weather related outages

We bought a table top grill, charcoal, matches, unscented candles, batteries for flashlights, those big jugs of water to sit by the sink for brushing our teeth should we not have water also....filled up the bathtubs to use to flush the toilets - wet wipes - When the power was out, we put heavy quilts and blankets over the windows and door openings, lit our candles in the one room we all congregated in and were actually quite cozy and warm.

games - to keep the kids entertained - they LOVED playing games when the power was out.

We kept food in the cooler outside on the patio - if it was during the winter we were ok, we had outages in the spring and I'd been keeping large bowls of ice in the fridge and filled up the cooler as soon as the lights went out -

I had a manual can opener and canned goods I warmed in their cans on the grill and was able to prepare food just fine. Grilled hot dogs - kids thought it was great.

*note* take the candles OUT OF THE ROOM to blow them out - excessive smoke is smothering LOL

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

On the issue of people having a stockpile of food and then all of a sudden realizing... I have no way to cook this...

People are generally wise enough to think these things through. There is, I am sure, the occasional exception but I would imagine in a time of no groceries in the grocery store one could barter the use of a propane stove for a good meal.

Oh no....you mean having the food stockpiled is not enough.......we also need to have a way to prepare it.....




I knew a Morman once that told me he had a years supply of food. I asked what happens if folks find out about it. He said he modified the teaching to having a years supply of food and ten thousanhd rounds of his favorite ammunition........

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Oh no....you mean having the food stockpiled is not enough.......we also need to have a way to prepare it.....




I knew a Mornam once that told me he had a years supply of food. I asked what happens if folks find out about it. He said he modified the teaching to having a years supply of food and ten thousanhd rounds of his favorite ammunition........

LOL... A necessary modification.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Theresa

I've always wondered why people buy bread, water and milk when they predict an ice storm. water I can understand b/c you need water if pipes burst etc....

but I'm talking about getting milk and bread that you probably wont use. Its just the first things gone off the shelves....

I wonder how many gallons of milk go bad b/c folks hoard it?

If they set it outside its just going to freeze should they lose power.

as will anything you purchase to make sandwiches.

what are you going to do?

Speaking of....

What do you do?

i'd like to hear what preparations folks make for ice storms or other weather related outages

We bought a table top grill, charcoal, matches, unscented candles, batteries for flashlights, those big jugs of water to sit by the sink for brushing our teeth should we not have water also....filled up the bathtubs to use to flush the toilets - wet wipes - When the power was out, we put heavy quilts and blankets over the windows and door openings, lit our candles in the one room we all congregated in and were actually quite cozy and warm.

games - to keep the kids entertained - they LOVED playing games when the power was out.

We kept food in the cooler outside on the patio - if it was during the winter we were ok, we had outages in the spring and I'd been keeping large bowls of ice in the fridge and filled up the cooler as soon as the lights went out -

I had a manual can opener and canned goods I warmed in their cans on the grill and was able to prepare food just fine. Grilled hot dogs - kids thought it was great.

*note* take the candles OUT OF THE ROOM to blow them out - excessive smoke is smothering LOL

When it looked like a hurricane was headed our direction I bought a Marine Battery(Deep cycle) and a 750 watt inverter. You attach the inverter to the battery and you can run a fan all night. You could run a lamp or other things as well. When the battery gets low you can charge it with your car or a sloar panel if you have one. I know a guy that runs a small household on four, forty-five watt solar pannels and a bank of 14 batteries. He doesn't have central aire but he does have two window units.