Confidentiality of Tithes

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Young couple's first baby they were afraid so I am there. I certainly have not been trying to toot my horn just giving the other side of all the horror stories you guys have posted on how the preacher should be on food stamps and living in the projects and filling out a time sheet.
You have no excuse YOUR pastor never took ONE dime of the church for his own personal use all the years he pastored and provided jobs for many of the men in the church.

Mature men should know that young women having a first baby are nervous... it's just part of the deal... You could try encouraging some birth prep. classes among your membership.

There are lots of things in life that are scary. Taking college entrance exams, having surgery, going to boot camp... You can not follow people into those situations and you should not follow a young mother into her childbed room either. Your job is to help people grow up, not to teach the that they can not live without you there every moment. A woman needs this time alone with her husband or if she has none then with her own mother or another mature woman and her doctor or midwife. It is abuse for you to follow a woman to the hospital and she may not have the nerve to say she does not want you there. You should be the mature one in this situation and pray from afar.

Good grief.

[Sweet Pea]

At no place did I read that Brother Epley was actually in the birth room with the new mother! I understood that he waited out in the waiting area - I think some of you are jumping to conclusions.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

At no place did I read that Brother Epley was actually in the birth room with the new mother! I understood that he waited out in the waiting area - I think some of you are jumping to conclusions.

Even so... 20 hours at the hospital... for a vaginal delivery... puhleeze!

[Scott Hutchinson]

Look I certainly don't agree with Elder Epley on everything,but He is a good man.
I've never pastored and I may never pastor a church,so I don't exactly how hard pastoring must be,but I do respect Elder Epley.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Look I certainly don't agree with Elder Epley on everything,but He is a good man.
I've never pastored and I may never pastor a church,so I don't exactly how hard pastoring must be,but I do respect Elder Epley.

Just making a passing statement. Over the years I have heard nearly everyone say how they disagree with so-and-so and end it with something like "but he's a good person!".

Well, if someone is erecting artificial walls to salvation because of personal hang ups and joking about it while being clintonesque in answering any questions, then NO he is NOT a "good man"!

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Even so... 20 hours at the hospital... for a vaginal delivery... puhleeze!

On the street they have a word for making your crew dependent on you. Pimping.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Randy Wayne I like you too.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Randy Wayne I like you too.

Just sayin. Someone can sound like the ultimate Pharisee for post after post and in one sentence everyone is going "oooooo, you really ARE a great guy!".

How many ways can someone say "Obama!"?

[ThePastorsCoach]

Well...This whole thing could be the REASON you don't PASTOR PEOPLE! Some of you have no clue in this world what people go through and now you just have to be CRITICAL of a PASTOR and his wife that go and pray with a young couple having their first child and they are there to support them! In all my years of pastoring - I NEVER was in the room when a woman delivered a child or was anywhere near delivery. But I have been with the fearful husband and the girls family, praying and ministering to them as she delivered the baby.
What in the world is wrong with you people that you have to judge every move a man of God makes??? Weirdos!

[houston]

Pulpit envy.