Pedophilia in Kansas Church - Page 22

houston · #**211** 06-16-2013, 06:33 AM

Disgusting, really.

soopy · #**212** 06-16-2013, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by houston

Disgusting, really.

This whole discussion seems to be, I don't know, impossible to be edifying?

plygn · #**213** 09-05-2013, 08:41 AM

Just an update as it appears that people might not be keeping up with this case. Such a sad ordeal for everyone involved. Jordan Young was in court on August 6th and was expected to plead guilty under a plea agreement to 6 charges of alleged child sex abuse. He even signed the agreement but when he walked into the courtroom he told the judge he wanted to fire his attorney and would not change his plea to guilty. He has now been assigned a public defender and has a preliminary hearing set for November 7-8, 2013. A status hearing has been set for October 29, 2013. The links to the news articles are below:

http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/F...218543141.html

http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/J...219457721.html

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CC1 · #**214** 09-05-2013, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by plygn

Just an update as it appears that people might not be keeping up with this case. Such a sad ordeal for everyone involved. Jordan Young was in court on August 6th and was expected to plead guilty under a plea agreement to 6 charges of alleged child sex abuse. He even signed the agreement but when he walked into the courtroom he told the judge he wanted to fire his attorney and would not change his plea to guilty. He has now been assigned a public defender and has a preliminary hearing set for November 7-8, 2013. A status hearing has been set for October 29, 2013. The links to the news articles are below:

http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/F...218543141.html

http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/J...219457721.html

[IMG]http://media.graytvinc.com/images/612*350/jordan+young+smiles.JPG[/IMG]
[IMG]http://media.graytvinc.com/images/612*350/jordan+young+with+lawyer.JPG[/IMG]
[IMG]http://media.graytvinc.com/images/612*350/jordan+young+no+plea2.JPG[/IMG]

Interesting. I wonder what made him decide to back out of the plea deal and plea not guilty. He is probably going to end up in prison a lot longer if it goes to trial.

Wonder where daddy Edwin ended up. A smooth talker will always find a flock to follow them no matter their history. I would not be surprised at all to find that he is pastoring somewhere.

Steve Epley · #**215** 09-05-2013, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1

Interesting. I wonder what made him decide to back out of the plea deal and plea not guilty. He is probably going to end up in prison a lot longer if it goes to trial.

Wonder where daddy Edwin ended up. A smooth talker will always find a flock to follow them no matter their history. I would not be surprised at all to find that he is pastoring somewhere.

Five minutes before the hearing he fired his lawyer and pleaded not guilty. He had already agreed to a plea. Now these poor parents and kids have to suffer some more. They thought this part was behind them. I think it was calculated to stay in jail longer and out of prison for a season.

CC1 · #**216** 01-29-2014, 11:11 PM

Looks like this sordid event has come to a closure of sorts at least legally. Jordan Young cut a plea deal to have part of the charges against him dropped and in return plead guilty to the ones that were not. He will spend 24 1/2 years in prison and once out will have to be a registered sex offender for the rest of his life and submit to post release supervision.

While this will bring some sense of closure to all it certainly does not in any way fix the tremendous harm he did to all of those teen boys in the church that he sexually abused. I really hope they all get some good Christian counseling to help them deal with all that they went through and the aftermath. Knowing what kind of church they are in and having listened to some of the new pastor's sermons I have a sinking feeling they most likely will only get sermons on hell fire and damnation. Hope I am wrong.

I firmly believe that justice was served in Jordan's sentence and would not have wanted for him to not been punished. However I also feel sadness that the entire future of an apparently talented young man and husband has been destroyed because he allowed the prince of this world to have reign in his mind and ultimately influence his actions. It reminded me of something a former pastor of mine used to say from the pulpit at least once or twice a year - something to the effect that no matter how revolting some sin is we hear or read about in the news we should remember that for the grace of God all of us are capable of anything and that could be us.

Here is a link to the news story from January 13,2014 about Jordan's sentencing.

http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/J...240035201.html

Dordrecht · #**217** 01-30-2014, 09:24 AM

In jail he has the opportunity to repent of his crimes and if sincere and from the heart Jesus Christ will forgive him.

Praxeas · #**218** 01-30-2014, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dordrecht

In jail he has the opportunity to repent of his crimes and if sincere and from the heart Jesus Christ will forgive him.

Yep

But I wonder if being a registered sex offender means he can never set foot inside or near a church with children attending

bishoph · #**219** 01-30-2014, 02:58 PM

Yes they can......I have had more than one attend. There are laws/rules of conduct, but they can attend church.

missourimary · #**220** 02-02-2014, 10:50 PM

In a church like his, there is little restriction on offenders.

Last time I attended, the boys were still being encouraged to forgive and forget it ever happened, and told that God would heal them if they just trusted Him... without counseling.

I was a member there until 2009. There are probably still those who don't think he did anything, and there are definitely still many who are dealing with things that his dad did to them.

For those who've said this thread isn't edifying. perhaps we should ask the question: what should be done differently to prevent these things from happening? In that area, if you left Faith Tabernacle you'd have to drive an hour or more to attend an Apostolic church-and churches people left Faith Tabernacle to attend were refered to as trash cans... inferring those who left and went to them were aarbage. Closer churches would refuse to accept those who wanted out-a prime example of why move-ins shouldn't be refused or stigmatized. Westberg himself used to say there were hundreds of 'backsliders' in the area, and counted anyone who left without permission (for any reason other than marriage or ministry with his blessing) as backsliders. There are many more now. What should be done for them? What could prevent these things from happening in the future?