Guns and the Bible

[KeptByTheWord]

The words of Jesus - love your enemies = choose love instead of hate. How do you reconcile the message of love your enemies, with killing your enemies?

How does the current gun-carry message fit with the words of Jesus? I know we have wrangled over this issue before. But it still bothers me.

There are two paths that can be chosen when confronted with evil, and someone wanting to hurt/kill you. You can own a gun and protect yourself and your family by killing, if needed.

Or, you could choose to not own a gun, trust the Lord and probably die.

Which scenario do you find yourself in?

[Sean]

If we do not provide for our own we are worse than an unbeliever.

[shazeep]

that strikes me as a different lesson; one of provision. We read that one may be forgiven for defending their family to the death, but i doubt one could be said to be reflecting Christ doing this.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by shazeep

that strikes me as a different lesson; one of provision. We read that one may be forgiven for defending their family to the death, but i doubt one could be said to be reflecting Christ doing this.

Standing there and letting someone abuse/kill your loved ones is a cowardly, wretched act.

[Monterrey]

Originally Posted by Sean

Standing there and letting someone abuse/kill your loved ones is a cowardly, wretched act.

Bwahahahahahahahahaha

That is one of the stupidist things that you have ever written.

So Jesus is a cowardly wretch?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

Bwahahahahahahahahaha

That is one of the stupidist things that you have ever written.

So Jesus is a cowardly wretch?

I am not Jesus.

Would you go in the other room and pray through as men are abusing your wife and children?

Are you giving your life for them?

[Monterrey]

Originally Posted by Sean

I am not Jesus.

Would you go in the other room and pray through as men are abusing your wife and children?

Are you giving you life for them?

Yes you are if you have the Holy Spirit. The Body of Christ.

His bride get abused every day.

Get out of the carnal Sean, there is a spiritual side.

[shag]

Evil men break in my house and try to rape my wife and daughter, I'll do whatever I can to stop them. Carnal or not...
What would U do Monterrey?
Serious question.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

I am not Jesus.

Good God from Zion!

You can say that again.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Sean

Standing there and letting someone abuse/kill your loved ones is a cowardly, wretched act.

well, i'm not sure that anyone could even do that. What i do suggest is that the possibility is much more likely one of either fiction, television, or a sign that God has allowed one's hedge to be penetrated due to sin. Does abuse happen? Yes, but that is not the point. Are you so likely to encounter such abuse that you should focus on methods of defense against it, take Kung-Fu classes, and buy a gun? Where the heck do you live, one must then ask.

It is nothing less than playing on peoples' fears, and intimating that God's protection is all very well and good in a church, say, or during a wedding or funeral--but cannot be counted upon in any steadfast way; and i reject it as lack of faith. If you feel the need to pack heat at what you imagine to be "church," and run imaginary scenarios wherein you are the hero or savior of the day, i feel for you. Like, pity.

I have friends who have spent thousands of dollars on karate, etc., an attractive Lebanese friend comes to mind, and while she has many good qualities, trust in God is not one of them. And she's still a bundle of nerves anyway; panic attacks, constant drama over benign wild animals, etc.

i mean, lemme get this straight--you claim God as your Father, and say you trust God, but you buy a gun and insurance, just in case? i guess everyone has their own level of faith, but i would call that a hypocrite.